Talk:River Tees

Latest comment: 1 year ago by The joy of all things in topic 2021 North-East England shellfish die-off

Ports on the Tees edit

Since about 1990 when the Tees Newport Bridge was locked down, ships of any decent size have not been able to go any further upriver than the Newport area of Middlesbrough and only relatively small craft can negotiate the Tees Barrage. Stockton-on-Tees can only be called a port in the sense that ships dock at various places on the Billingham side of the river (which is in the Borough of Stockton-on-Tees) that runs all the way down to Teesmouth. In what sense is the town of Stockton-on-Tees a port? Stockton docks have long gone. Middlesbrough and Teesport (Redcar and Cleveland) however are definitely ports. Your thoughts on the matter. Stuffed cat (talk) 11:30, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Head Wrightson (where my granddad worked till the mid 60's) were active until 1979, under different names. They had to have used the river to ship out their product. But once they and other outfits closed, I think the days of Stockton as a port were over (strictly speaking HW were in Thornaby, as was the flour mill). Djdaedalus (talk) 14:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

Article's format edit

just to flag up the fact that the article content before the Contents should be a summary of the main article. Here, we've got most information in the summary than the main article. if I have time I'll work on this. Rikstar409 18:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Possible copyright violation edit

The entire Geography section looks to have been lifted verbatim from The Tees River Trust web site [1] which is copyrighted. If this is the case, this whole section needs to be rewritten to avoid copyright violation. The information in it is very useful, it just needs to be rewritten.Rimmer1993 (talk) 22:06, 13 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Difficult to track this one but some of the key passages were already present in the 2004 version of this article and the original text appears to be sourced to the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica. The phrase "subsumes no important tributaries" appears to have developed during various edits. The River Tees Trust was not established till 2009 by which time the Geography section is this article was well established with most of the phrasing seen today. It looks therefore as though the Tees River Trust have have wittingly or unwittingly "borrowed" Wikipedia text rather than the other way round.  Velella  Velella Talk   22:21, 13 December 2012 (UTC)Reply


Thanks for looking into that. Doesn't hurt to have it on record now. I too have my concerns over the use of the phrase "subsumes no important tributaries". The use of the word "important" is subjective and would need backing up, especially as there are 4 officially recognised rivers that flow into the Tees (Leven, Skerne, Greta and Lune).Rimmer1993 (talk) 22:42, 13 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Length of the Tees edit

The length given for the Tees in the article currently is 137km / 85 miles. This figure is unreferenced so we don't know where it came from. I've made my own measurement recently using the tool available on the wheresthepath website (you can try it too!) and, after painstaking effort tracing every last curve at appropriate scales, that gave me a figure of 158.3km / 97.4 miles from the source to the county limit between the breakwaters where the estuary empties into Tees Bay. I'm confident of the measurement to within 1% - but of course this figure is original research on my part so may not be used in the article. However it does give a guide as to what an accurate external reference might look like when found. Interestingly, the length of the river before the modern era would have been rather longer prior to the creation of Cow Green Reservoir (1km/0.6 mile reduction) and the cutting of navigation channels at Middlesbrough (5km / 3miles reduction), in fact exceeding the 100 mile figure. thanks Geopersona (talk) 20:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

2021 North-East England shellfish die-off edit

I have just created a new section. I know it is long and I intend to post a request for a new page with the same title at Requested_articles/Natural_sciences#Environment_and_geology Please don't reduce my new paragraph until sufficient time has elapsed for a new article covering this subject has been created. 109.148.86.205 (talk) 02:01, 6 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

I think plenty of time has now elapsed since February - this material does not belong in an article on the River Tees. If I don't remove it somebody else will - a better home for it should be found quickly. To the extent that there is/may be a connection, a brief piece of text and a link can be put in place from this article. The text will still be recoverable even if it is wiped from the current page, by looking at earlier versions. thanks Geopersona (talk) 10:04, 7 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
109.148.86.205 Geopersona  Y. Will need a good check, please, although I could not find any free images of dead shellfish. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 16:01, 13 November 2022 (UTC)Reply