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Condolences
editMy condolences to the Attenboroughs, who were vactioning in Thailand for the holidays
- Richard and Sheila weren't there, but members of their family were there and some were killed. SteveCrook 00:06, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
"Dickie"
editI don't think it matters that much tbh, but I'd suggest that it's only really a segment of the British population that would recognise that usage. Richard/Lord Attenborough is the norm.Alci12 00:05, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't agree at all. I think a very large segment of the British population would recognise the usage, since he's often referred to by other people in the industry in this way on television. Formally, of course he's Lord Attenborough or Richard Attenborough. Most people outside the industry wouldn't refer to him as "Dickie", but I do think they'd know who was being referred to, and that's the point here. -- Necrothesp 17:06, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree, but the opener needs to be restructured and expanded anyway so you could put something in about how he's sort of a "beloved elder" and mention the nickname that way. I also think it would be good to mention his work like BAFTA, NFTS and possibly RADA in the opener. After all, he's recognised for his genuine contribution beyond just putting in some enjoyable preformances. Amo 01:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC) He does prefer other people to call him Dickie. Sue De Nimes (talk) 07:51, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Labour Party politicians
editShould he be categorised as a Labour Party politician? He sits as a Labour lord and has sat on the NEC, but I don't think he's ever even tried for election as an MP. I suppose this is really a query about the category as about Dickie's place in it. -- SteveCrook 12:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Silly paragraph
edit'He took no acting roles following his appearance in Otto Preminger's version of The Human Factor in 1979, until his appearance as the eccentric developer John Hammond in Steven Spielberg's Jurassic Park in 1993. The following year he starred in the remake of Miracle on 34th Street as Kris Kringle. Since then he has made occasional appearances in supporting roles including the 1998 historical drama Elizabeth as Sir William Cecil.'
In other words, he took at least three acting roles following his appearance in The Human Factor.
This paragraph makes very little sense. Unless someone is willing to track down every one of Attenborough's acting appearances since 1979 (and frankly, I for one am not enough of a fan to do so), it needs to be rewritten. Lexo 00:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
War service
editI'm interested to know a little bit more about what Attenborough did for the Royal Air Force during World War II. Jaedglass 00:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- I was about to comment on this. He apparently trained as a pilot and saw active service. Article makes no mention of this. Drutt (talk) 02:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
- I hope I have answered this question now! Manxwoman (talk) 19:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure. "During the Second World War, Attenborough served in the Royal Air Force. After initial pilot training he was seconded to the newly formed RAF Film Unit at Pinewood Studios, under the command of Flight Lieutenant John Boulting (whose brother Peter Cotes would later direct Attenborough in the play The Mousetrap) where he appeared with Edward G. Robinson in the propaganda film Journey Together (1943). He then volunteered to fly with the Film Unit and after further training, where he sustained permanent ear damage, qualified as a sergeant, flying on several missions over Europe filming from the rear gunner's position to record the outcome of Bomber Command sorties.[7]"
Understanding this paragraph isn't made any easier by an insert in parentheses about the Mousetrap. But it says: a) he had initial pilot training then b) was seconded to the the RAF FIlm Unit in which he made a propaganda film and then c) he volunteered to fly with the film unit and flew several misssions filming.
At no point does it say he saw active service.PhilomenaO'M (talk) 17:07, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
House of Lords
editShouldn't there be mention of his seat in the House of Lords? See House of Lords - ATTENBOROUGH (Life Baron), Richard Samuel Attenborough
Flight of the Phoenix
editRichard Attenborough's potrayal of Lew Moran in the 1965 motion picture Flight of the Phoenix deserves an additional note. There were many moving performances in that under-appreciated film by Richard and the other cast members as well. If you don't believe me revisit that scene where Lew Moran cracks-up when he finds out they are going to attempt to fly in a 'toy airplane'. I've never seen a nervous laugh turn into a hysterical cry quite like that.
Education
editThere's no indication in the body text of the article that Attenborough attended any university, and it seems apparent from various biographies that he didn't, so I deleted the misinformation in the infobox. Softlavender (talk) 06:11, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Verbatim from IMDB
editMost of this article is verbatim from IMDB. I don't know which came first (someone can use the WayBack Machine to figure that out) but it's pretty egregious, on whichever side it ocurred. 98.150.164.26 (talk) 09:24, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- I've known other cases, for other articles, where the entry in the IMDb and the entry in Wikipedia was written by the same person. If that's the case, why shouldn't they be the same? -- SteveCrook (talk) 16:55, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- This Wikipedia article wasn't written by one person, it was written by a number of persons. Also, IMDB is not supposed to copy from anything -- it's supposed to be original work; likewise for Wikipedia. Softlavender (talk) 22:45, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- It isn't copying if the author submits their own work. If someone has written & published something as long as it's NPOV then it's acceptable for the author to include it in a Wikipedia article (what rules does it break?). The author can also submit it to the IMDb because it's their own original work. There's a large overlap between the two sets of rules. -- SteveCrook (talk) 01:25, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- Wikipedia articles are not written by one person, but by many; copying that to IMDB is therefore not original work. Softlavender (talk) 03:45, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- There's an echo in here :) -- SteveCrook (talk) 06:00, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Pronounciation of surname
editThe prounounciation of the surname differs from his brother's article David Attenborough when it should surely be the same, which is correct? or is there another explaination ?
Carlwev (talk) 16:02, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- Why should they be the same? How each person pronounces their name is up to that individual -- SteveCrook (talk) 16:54, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, fixed. Softlavender (talk) 22:48, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- ætənbərə is close enough.
- It's not necessarily incorrect to show it as ætənbʌrə
- At least it's not the horrendous ætənbʌroʊ
Filmography
editThe article has Eight O'Clock Walk as being 1952, but IMDB and the Wikipedia article for it date it as 1954. Could be date of his involvement vs release date, but looks like an error. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Proindexer (talk • contribs) 10:59, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
- Well spotted. The 2013 UK DVD has the original release date as 1954, and from what I see it's the release date that WP uses. Done.Twistlethrop (talk) 16:07, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Semiprotected edit request on 24 August 2014
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Now that Sir Richard has passed, many people will be visiting this page. In the section discussing his role in "The Mousetrap" at the St. Martin's Theatre in London, it states the play is still running in 2012. I just checked, and as of the date of his death - 24 August 2014 - the play is STILL running and tickets are available. I believe this article needs that minor update. Please change 2012 to 2014. Thank you. 68.204.73.63 (talk) 22:58, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
- Done and thanks Cannolis (talk) 00:08, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Cause of death?
editI just removed an unsourced statement that Attenborough died "from illness". The sources I saw either made no mention of cause or said it was "undetermined". Just noting that editors could keep an eye out for this information, when a reliable source gives it.--220 of Borg 08:53, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
- Old age? 82.118.123.6 (talk) 11:52, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
- Currently reads "Cause of death: Disease". Not ideal. 86.30.168.72 (talk) 22:50, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Infobox
editDoesn't the actor infobox have a spot for awards, such as Academy Awards? Why does his not have that? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:20, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
Legacy
editHe was truly a man that spared no expense and will be remembered fondly.--74.219.236.70 (talk) 01:42, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Assessment comment
editThe comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Richard Attenborough/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Needs citing ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 02:55, 16 September 2006 (UTC) |
Last edited at 02:55, 16 September 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 04:18, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
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Blacklisted in US in 1950s
editNo mention of this, yet he is listed in another Wikipedia entry of a list of Artists Blacklisted by the house of un-American activities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:9B59:B100:9495:3E23:CF24:7AE1 (talk) 17:12, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
"imagery award"?
editShouldn't this be "imaginary award"> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.85.76 (talk) 17:03, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
Animal survival
editIf we are the dominant survivor group and the top off the intelligent group why don’t we decide to help all the lesser groups of beings on the earth? 2A02:C7C:7E18:D400:49F3:C8B:69B5:8F8E (talk) 19:27, 16 October 2022 (UTC)