Talk:Resident Evil 5/Archive 1

Billy Coen as protagonist of RE5

This hasn't been confirmed yet. Billy Coen's name on IMDB doesn't mean he's a main character. He could be a supporting or even just making an appearance. GalacticAE 7:06, 13 June 2007 (TC)

See Wikipedia:Reliable Sources - Both IMDB and Evilunleashed are not reliable sources of information, especially since they are fan edited. We're better off waiting for Capcom's official word. While Van Wormer's website states that he will voice Coen's character in RE5, there's no official source that confirms if he will be the game's protagonist. ---ShadowJester07 01:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Yea, fair enough. GalacticAE 01:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't Coen be mentioned in the article, even if he isn't protagonist? Parjay 19:58, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

When a legitimate source covers it ;) --►ShadowJester07  20:29, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

On a further note, some user has just admitted to messing around with RE5's IMDB page in order to prove a point about its unreliability.[1] Please make sure random editors do not add any of those characters to this article for the time being. --►ShadowJester07  12:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)\

Oh my goodness. This article of Resident Evil 5 is a bunch of crap, no offense. It's not accurate. For starters, the character in the preview doesn't resemble Chris Redfield, not at all. Look at the face of the character in the preview, look at the face of Chris Redfield, and then look at the face of Billy Coen. The facial structure is a dead on model of Billy Coen, just with shorter hair and with a 5-o-clock shadow. And the thing about somebody proving a point about imdb being unreliable, that's not true. You made that up to feel some sort of satisfaction, probably because you're a Chris Redfield fan. I'm sorry to be the Devil's Advocate, but Billy Coen is undeniably the character in the preview of Resident Evil 5. All I'm saying is that it's unrealistic to say the character looks like Chris, it's only a hopefully wish. It's, however, factual to say that the character looks like Billy. Don't believe me? Like I said, find pictures of Billy and Chris, and compare. Look at the eyes, and the hair color. The fact that the production crew of the original Resident Evil crew is very fond of the character, doesn't mean it's Chris. Did you forget about the failed Resident Evil Zero project that they had to throw out the window for the N64? They're fond of this Character, because they can finally make Billy Coen how they originally wanted him to be. By all means, the director of the successful RE0 game wasn't apart of the failed version. *hint hint*. Put the puzzle together, evidence points towards Billy Coen, and the facial structure does.. DO YOUR RESEARCH!

One more thing "When a legitimate source covers it ;)". Umm. Sorry to burst your bubble, there isn't a legitimate source that says the character "resembles" Chris Redfield. Does it? Didn't think so. Billy Coen and Chris Redfield, should be mentioned in the Resident Evil article. Perhaps there should be a section about the arguments whether it's Chris or Billy.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.244.30.198 (talk • contribs).

Actually, there is a reference from GS that makes the comparison to the 'protagonist' and Chris, [2]. Second, all your claims are based on WP:Original Research and WP:Attribution, and, with all due respect, hold no validity on an encyclopedia (or at least this one). Your basing your argument on a single clip, at least wait for Capcom to release something else. Second, I could careless as to whoever becomes the game's protagonist; its just a story, not a political election (and even then, I still would not give two shits). Next, Wikipedia itself forbids using IMDB] as a reference. The aforementioned link proves it - a user added two characters with the intent of providing false information. Also, take note this article does not even mention who the protagonist will be - the way it should be until Capcom officially says something. --►ShadowJester07  17:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh. www.imdb.com is a bad source you say? Hmmm. How about Steve Van Wormer's OFFICIAL website? It stated that he was doing the voice of Billy Coen in Resident Evil 5, but CAPCOM made him take it down. Check this out http://i16.tinypic.com/53q2h6d.jpg, that's a picture before he had to take it down, and http://www.wormontheweb.com/voiceover/index.php is afterwards. Boo Ya! ShadowJester07 take that.

Welcome to two weeks ago; we've already dismissed using the his site and the screen shot, see talk:Billy Coen. If you're trying to turn this into a debate of why we should add speculation onto an encyclopedia, perhaps you should familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's policies. --►ShadowJester07  06:06, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

First off, no one knows why he took off the info on his site and saying Capcom made him do it is based off speculation. I believe the current state of the page is acceptable because Capcom has not released any info on the main protagonist. Please keep your fanboy agenda out of Wikipedia as the info on this site is not a place for baseless speculation. Take that to your RE forums and fansites where you can explain how and why you think "Billy" doesn't have his tattoo in the RE5 trailer or other uncomfirmed information you regard as fact. For now, the character is unnamed and will remain that way until an official source lets us know otherwise.

You should familiarize yourself with the previous development process of the RE franchise and note that what we see in the trailer is not what we're guaranteed.

Some things you should consider:

- People have admitted to adding false info to the Biohazard 5 IMDB page just to show how unreliable IMDB is.

- RE0 for N64 remained largely the same to it's GC counterpart with the exception of Rebecca's beret being removed and the obvious graphical update.

- Voice actors are just as clueless as you and I when it comes to the development process of the game. For all we know, Billy Coen's VA could've have mistaken RE5 for the upcoming Umbrella Chronicles.

- No where did it state that Billy was the main protagonist or that he is indeed in the first teaser trailer. Because of this, I'm forced to believe you're just implying that he is because of wishful thinking. --GalacticAE 20:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Man this guy is relentless, he posted up the same slop on several other URL's, he even has his own blog. Read this little bit why don't you ---> BlindsideDork's Blog.

I can also assure you that he's also the user who posted that same mess in the Billy Coen discussion section. I've traced him to several other URL's like this one, but exposing all of the shit he's written would just be too painstakingly arduous a task.

In anycase, both GalacticAE and ►ShadowJester07  are right, no confirmations on either Billy's, Chris', or HUNK's name have been made official. So the character's identity remains shrouded in a concieveable amount of mystery (despite whatever hints have been thrown out at fans and game analysts). Your speculative comments remain nothing more than what they are, speculations. - Zappy's not happy ^talk 12:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

While reading that part about how it looks like Chris Redfield, I immediately thought it looked like Billy, and in fact came here hoping to be the first one to write about it, sadly (yet in a way very good) I'm not the first one to notice this horrible mistake. C. Pineda 23:58, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/805/805932p1.html <<- Confirmed, It's Chris Redfield.

Great news. Too bad that guy's research didn't pay off and he was wrong about being 100% certain it was Billy. That's why we don't allow speculation on Wikipedia. GalacticAE 21:35, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Amen, GalacticAE ;-) . --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 23:05, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh my goodness... Some very self-important people tell us to DO OUR [ORIGINAL] RESEARCH in all capital letters, and it turns out they're VERY WRONG. (I thought it looked like Chris...) That's funny. Grandmasterka 08:12, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Weapons & Gameplay section

I'm about to overhaul its grammar and structure. In my opinion, it's rather difficult to read right now. I'm going to try to keep all pertinent information, with the exception of the section detailing Wesker's plans for the viruses and Plagas samples, which are being moved to storyline. Showdown 06:58, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Might as well say theirs a shotgun,9mm,and a rocket launcher to keep in the weapons section. Wesker was working with Krauser right?

Mouthful

"It will probably be more or less action-packed than RE4."

Is this necessary?

Yeah it doesn't really make sense and that whole paragraph is just speculation anyway. Changed, but don't know if it should be deleted altogether. Showdown 06:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Each talk entry does not need a seperate title

Since most of these discussion entries are a debate on whether or not the main character is Chris, you do not need a title for every single entry. The "Chris-or-not-Chris" debacle is a single topic. Please read the Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines, or read the top of the Resident Evil 5 talk page; The page what you are reading right now. So please stop it, Napolitano. CardinalFangZERO 18:04, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah you are right so i deleted the titles... well i have nothing more to say but thanks for the advice --Napolitano 20:16, 26 March 2006

Guessing the ESRB rating?

In the infobox it says "Rating Pending But most likely M". I don't think we should guess what the rating will be. That's probably considered original research and should be removed. I agree that it probably will be rated M, but it's not our job to speculate on what the rating might be. Just saying the rating is pending is fine. --Optichan 20:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Rating Pending should be fine, too. Rockhound 18:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

it will be "M",No doubt. It gonna have blood and gore.

Speculation

Perhaps I'm way off base in this, but does it not appear as if certain elements of the article are speculation. Namely, the comments about Albert Wesker combining the T and G Viruses with Las Plagas. To my knowledge, this is not canon, and is therefore original research or speculation. Furthermore, several elements in the Weapons and Gameplay category appear to be speculation as well, particularly the Kendo Gun Shop and Desert Eagle snippets. None of this is cited as having been brought up in an interview or magazine article, and I'm quite sure that the "supervirus" is merely fan myth. I was wondering if anyone would be opposed to the removal of that information pending a citation. GraniteJJ 04:50, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm for removal of this bit pending citation. Rockhound 18:55, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

With Wesker combining T and G with a Plaga parasite, it could be a possibility, although never stated in RE4. He does make a brief appearance in Ada's mission, but that's it. But I'm with Rockhound on this. Until we know something official, it should be removed. CardinalFangZERO 20:50, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

One thing people should know is that Wesker does NOT have the actual Plaga parasite, seeing as Ada gave him a fake.

Not a wii title?

Shouldn’t this article include information about why the franchise is moving away from Nintendo?

info from this link gives an idea, I say its worth puting it. http://www.joystiq.com/2005/07/20/resident-evil-5-confirmed-for-ps3-360-nintendo-snubbed/

86.142.13.24 18:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[]I thought they had a Contract With Nintendo and Their Time is Up So no more Nintendo unless things Change I guess. The RE series on the GC seemed to have some sort of exclusivity even though the first two were remakes and when the Contract was done They Quickly Shifted to the PS2 to port over RE4 on that Platform. I don't know much though but this is the best info I can give you.

The franchise isn't "moving away from Nintendo". There will be a Wii-exclusive RE game alongside RE5. The franchise has split off like this in the past too (Veronica was originally a Dreamcast exclusive, Zero was an N64/GC exclusive, etc) , so I wouldn't put too much significance on the "snub". Kelvingreen 08:42, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Kelvingreen, it's not moving from Nintendo, especially due to the release of RE: The Umbrella Chronicles. What Capcom might be doing (it wouldn't be the first time either) is put it on these two systems, see how the reception is, get feedback on how to improve it, then release a grandeur-ized version of it on Nintendo, it's been done before, and occasionally in the opposite way. (RE 4, from Gamecube, to PS2, and another version with enhanced gameplay from Ada Wong on Wii.) C. Pineda 00:06, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

SKU?

Hello, I was wondering if someone could clarify what an "SKU" is, since it's mentioned several times in the first paragraph, and the general public probably doesn't already know what an "SKU" is. Thanks in advance. Power Slave 16:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

It's just the barcode, that's all.  :) CardinalFangZERO 22:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I made a small edit, explaining the acronym on its first use and linking it to an explanatory wiki page, though to be perfectly honest I'm still not entirely sure what it's referring to or what it's purpose is. I think it should be rewritten, if possible. Clarified, and such. Terpoma 01:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Weapons and Gameplay

Unless some of those statements start being cited sometime soon, I have half a mind to remove them. Xubelox 20:06, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Agreed Power Slave 02:42, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Also agreed, and at least one of them was removed by me. Namely, the bit about the gun in the RE5 trailer looking like the "Beretta" in RE2. First of all, there are no Beretta handguns in RE2. Secondly, the gun in the RE5 trailer quite simply does not look like any of the guns in RE2. LoneWolf6:16 23:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Speculation about the protagonist

Neither this article nor this talk page are the place to speculate about who the protagonist of RE5 is. Speculative comments that don't address the article will be removed. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:17, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Someone stated that the protagonist was Chris Redfield based off of an "information leak" of a website. It DOES say that on the page but we can't know for sure that it's the truth. Should we accept it (and/or) Does the person (?) who stated this have any other sources?

Just wondering. Peregrine 20:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The only information known about the main character is that it's somebody "the developers are quite fond of" and the development team is the one that worked on the original Resident Evil. It's not a confirmation for Chris Redfield, but I think it's enough to warrant a mention considering the "wink wink" tone of the quote. - Charagon 3-29-07

I think he looks a little bit (okay, a lot) like Bruce McGivern from Resident Evil: Dead Aim. - Kooshmeister

Dude. He is Carlos Oliveir from RE3 Nemesis. He knows alot about Umbrella. Besides. The main character looks alot like Carlos.

Vandalism

Well, someone changed the mentions of a desert setting to "Strip Bar", so I'm revertiing the page. Oh, and he changed HUNK to "Fat Fat Joe". Sooo. I guess I'll be doing that... 67.142.130.29 08:05, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

- Huh... Someone beat me to it. 67.142.130.29 08:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Next time just revert it right away. ;) No need to tell us. :) Havok (T/C/e/c) 08:14, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Black Hawk Down?

it will take place in a post apocalyptic setting, similar to the movie Black Hawk Down. That needs tidying up, because it implies that BHD is a post-apocalyptic story, which it clearly isn't. I don't know enough about RE5 to know what to change it to myself, however. I assume that with the changes that have been made to the article, with the reference to a desert setting lost, we're left with something nonsensical. Kelvingreen 21:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Release Dates?

Im conused as there has been news that the release of RE5 has been pushed back until sometime in late 2008 or 2009 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.166.141.52 (talk) 20:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC).

By News, do you mean the rumor mill, or an actual GameSpot or IGN article. Neither Source has claimed there has been a change in Re5's release date. IGN claims the game will come out on 12/31/07 --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  21:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The latest issue of Xbox World 360 claims a mid to late 08 release is likely as the game is still at the storyboard stage.

screenshots

these are both used for promotion and as proper screen shots, either rationale makes it acceptable for them to be in this article. --AlexOvShaolin 18:39, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

No, Because the license specifically states, for identification and critical commentary - meaning some text needs to directly refer to the images in question. This for the same reason one cannot use a random TV screen shot to depict a profile shot of a person.However, if you were to write some commentary in the gallery, perhaps explain what it is depicting in relation to the article's content it should be fine. See Talk:Brian Urlacher#Images or [[Image:TomWad.JPG]] . Also the images have no fair use rationale whatsoever - the tag is not good enough {{game-screenshot}} (although most people wont make a deal abut it unless your nominating the article for GA or FA status. If you feel the images are absolutely needed, you can claim the images in Fair Use because... (See Waddle Image) --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  18:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

the images are part of the game environment description and are direct references. --AlexOvShaolin 18:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

And I'm guessing why that's why they're in a stand alone gallery, which is in a separate section and have no claim of purpose. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  19:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

This game is not coming out March 23, 2007

Not in a million years. Why is that in there? The source is bogus, obviously.--68.227.65.46 07:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Sick Stuff and rumors

I just deleted a Sentence which had the following "Chris redfield will be having an affair with his sister. Introducing the element of incest according to Play magazine will be the scariest part of the game or any game to date." not only is that not accepteble the creator hasen't even said who is the Alledged protangist, and I just deleted a sentece that said Jill Valentine may be in the game cause it has no evedence to back up the claim, I have not yet found who did it but I am searching. Efrit 9:41 pm 2/15/07 Febuary

I have found who did the Jill Valentine sentence it is 24.168.253.161 and I have also found who did the Sick sentence it is 89.241.17.202 Their both IP's and if you want proff of 89.241.17.202 doing the Sick Sentence look on an older revision it cleary isnt their before 89.241.17.202 revision. Efrit 9:57 pm 2/15/07 Febuary

It seems our friend 24.168.253.161 won't stop makeing false rumors and even restored the Jill Sentence and even added a Character section I have deleted all of 24.168.253.161 revisions and please Admins or Mods make the article Member only editing. Efrit 10:04 pm 2/15/07 Febuary

Some people are just out there to make shit difficult and vandalize, oh well, thell get tired of it and move on soon... Reexpert44

Sentence in plot

Is the sentence in plot really needed cause I really don't think that Resident Evil 4 was a side story cause it was really involved with Wesker and it showed his plans of building Umbrella back up and it showed what happend to Leon since Resident Evil 2. Efrit 9:58 am 2/20/07 Febuary

RE4’s plot mainly revolved around Leon Kennedy and his mission to rescue Ashley Graham. The part about Krauser, Wesker, and Ada working to obtain the Plagas sample was a sub-story. The game does not show what happened to Leon, other than the fact he became a secret service agent and met Krauser back at the “academy”. Additionally, Takeuchi himself has dubbed RE4 to be side story – see the reference next to it. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  22:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I have to agree with the original complaint. While RE4 is removed from the original umbrella incident, side story seems to be to general a classification, even if it is the classification the developers have used. From what little information we have on RE5, it seems as though RE5 will be both a sequel of RE:CVX and RE4. If nothing else RE4 seems to be a neccessary bridge between RE:CVX and RE5. Also remember, Leon being drafted into a secret government agency has been documented as far back as RE2. Ultimately I'd say trying to identify sequels in the RE universe would make one messy flow chart. But I'd say RE2 is certainly a core title in the RE series, and RE4 is arguably a sequel to 2.

my explanation:

RE1 only really has a lose connection with RE2

RE3 is a true sequel to RE1 and a loose sequel to RE2

RECVX is a true sequel to RE1 & RE2 but only loosly to RE3

RE4 is a true sequel to RE2 & a loose sequel to RECVX

RE5 seems to be shaping up to be a true sequel to RECVX & RE4 thus forming the core sequencing of:

 RE1      RE2                       
 /  \     /\
RE3 /    /  \  
    \   /    \
    RE:CVX    \
    \        RE4
     \         /
      \       /   
        RE:5

Gameplay

Should any mention be made of the fact that heat and cold are supposedly going to be an intergal part of the gameplay?

Its already mentioned in some form. See the 3rd Point in the GamePlay section. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk  22:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I could have sworn that section wasn't there when I read the article. Ah well my bad.

Reference to movies?

Hmm why is there talk about 28 days later and Dawn of dead? This is resident evil,not dawn of the dead.

Likely because of the "running zombies" those movies defined apparently being present in RE5. Judging from the new video shown today RE5's enemies appear to be extremely similar to 28 Days Later's monsters. Right down to the bleeding eyes. - Charagon, 7-11-07

Exclusive to the 360?

"which is set to debut for Xbox 360 exclusively"

I haven't heard about this, who said it was an exclusive?

It was announced at Microsoft's E3 Media Event on July 10. 72.155.131.28 15:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

it's not exclusive >.<,it's for ps3 too. Capcom said it at the press release.--Hitamaru 16:55, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

This is a problem. Capcom said in the press release it was multi-platform. Microsoft at E3 2007 specifically said Resident Evil 5 was a Xbox 360 exclusive. I suppose they are lying but who knows. 72.49.194.69 21:23, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Joshua

Microsoft never said anything like that. The just said there will be a trailer on the marketplace but didn't say it was exclusive. I saw the Biohazard 5 section of the MS press conference a few times and Moore didn't mention that anything exclusive. Sony even had their own version of the trailer at their conference. GalacticAE 00:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Peter Moore "....Resident Evil 5, a 360 exclusive."

If its a 360 exclusive, why would Sony even bother adding the game's new trailer to PSN? [3] Unless there's some official citation, it should probably not be added. --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 01:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Here's the video of the RE5 presentation in the Microsoft Press Conference: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VId9LudIKCk A new trailer will be available on XBL marketplace AND PSN next week. RE5 is not 360 exclusive.IGN [4] "...The full version of the E3 trailer (which will be distributed on Xbox Live and PSN later this month)..." GalacticAE 01:18, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

NOT STARS badge in new teaser

Before everyone starts adding this, take note that the badge on the character's shoulder is not a STARS badge, even if it does look like one. The only viewable letters on it are: SAA. Parjay 13:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

SAA...My guess is the Anti-Umbrella organization. but I agree, it shouldn't be added right now. Dengarde 14:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

It actuly says OSAA

Well I found this extrapolated image http://www.residentevilfan.ws/re5/chrisbsaa.jpg which makes it look much more like BSAA. I find it likely that this is a fictional organization like S.T.A.R.S. or U.B.C.S.

However I think we should hold off on any adding any information based on this until the full trailer is released. Wildodeelf 04:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Also, it looks more like OSSA. That's a real thing and stands for "Office of the Special Adviser on Africa". With the game set in Africa, may be not such a coincidence. Parjay 13:56, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

It says BSAA. There's a picture of it somewhere, I'll go look up for it.

Female Character

Ok, I looked over the trailers about 100 times, I have yet to see the female charicter. Catcom siad she was seen berflee in one of the e3 trailers.

She'll be in the new trailer set to release on Xbox live and Playstation network next week (July 26 I believe). It's a full trailer with more stuff shown than the E3 versions. GalacticAE 01:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Images of the girl, who is obviously Sherry, have now appeared in Famitsu. However, I can't scare up a good source to cite a link too, can anyone find something? http://www.the-horror.com/imagedisplay.php?img=news/pics/2007%207%2020/05.jpg Parjay 18:13, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

it looks like it could even be jill, same face with the set back eyes...REexpert44

You think that looks like a 33 year old Jill, with blonde hair and a ponytail? Read the interview, Takeuchi states that the girl has been captured and never rescued - the only one in the games that has happened to is Sherry. Parjay 16:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Didnt read the interview thing just saw the pic, its gotta be sherry then, i hope she isnt as lame as last time taking 20 minutes to climb a small box...REexpert 21:02, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

It's eather the cop from Resident Evil Outbrake File 2, or Sherry. I hope it's Sherry, Shes whould be in her early 20's be now. --Jareth shadow 19:54, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

The new RE5 trailer never states who she is either >_>. All it does is show that shot from Famitsu. [5]. I can see another debate breaking out sometime in the future :p --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 13:45, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

If you watch the extended trailer on IGN, she is in that too. That is where I got the captured image which I added to the article. 129.97.231.131 15:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Chronologically Confused

Greetings, Editors. There is a problem with recent information about Resident Evil 5 reported by the citation as coming from Famitsu. The article states, citing Famitsu, that Resident Evil 5 takes place FIVE years after Resident Evil (the first game). Yet, Capcom has said previously that RE5 will "proceed from where Resident Evil 4 left off". Resident Evil 4 took place SIX years after the first Resident Evil. It doesn't make sence that RE5 takes place BEFORE RE4. There is alot of confusion regarding this, and if the translation of Famitsu is correct, Capcom has given contradictory data and RE5 would presumably serve as a prequel to RE4. Hopefully someone will clarify this problem. 72.49.194.69 21:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC) Joshua

This 1up article has Takeuchi commenting about the game and saying it will take place 10 years after the Raccoon City incident. I believe this is the correct information. http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161378 GalacticAE 21:45, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Ablert Wesker

Wesker is in this game. Official Xbox magazine had a Front page picture of him and 2 men behind him. I this is not speculation either.Can someone add that he is in the but isn't known why.--Hitamaru 01:52, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

It may be speculation on the magazine's part, since no images of Wesker have been released yet. Parjay 01:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I think you're confusing it with Umbrella Chronicles, that image is the promo poster for it, not for RE5, here's the pic: http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/51351520070707_021017_10_big.jpg User:CrushNush 0:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC -4)

no thats not it. Its way different i swear that i've seen a pic on OXM cover that showed wesker and 2 guys. But your pic is exactly what i was saying but its not it's not it(in the way its Wesker and 2 weskers behind him way). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitamaru (talk • contribs)

Questionable Enemy Description

"Enemy characters are African negroid" Eh Wot? 24.18.99.226 06:25, 27 July 2007 (UTC) All I'm saying is, the Ganados weren't reffered to as "Spanish Caucasoids." The sentance seems obtuse and out of place. I suggest removing it alltogeather.

As do I, especially since A) screenshots have shown enemies that aren't "negroid" and B) the game's setting has not yet been revealed. It may not actually take place in Africa for all we know. - LukewarmWarrior 08:33, 27 July 2007 72.131.46.186

Sorry for that - apparently some user believes the game is sparking "racial controversy" by adding African enemies to the game (though that was never officially confirmed). I removed it per WP:A. If someone adds anything like that again (images or text) please remove it and warn the user. --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 12:48, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I love it how people complain that they are killing black enemies and having heart attacks over it, when in previous RE titles it has been killing of thosands of white people, and noone ever said that is racist, there should be no racial issues in this game that people should complain about, it should all be stricken from the record... REexpert 16:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Latest Trailer & Possible Error on Our Part

The second picture on this page says it is Chris Renfield, the protagonist of RE5. While I dont dispute Chris Renfield is the main protagonist, I am not sure that the picture shown is Chris. He is wearing different clothes than Chris is wearing in the latest preview (the one confirming the main character to be chris), and his hair appears to be a different cut. We were told that RE5 would fill in events in Chris's life after the original RE, (and presumably RECVX) so it could be Chris @ two different points in time. But being as their is speculation of Billy's involvement, and we have screen shots of Chris Renfield looking substantially different from the shot we are claiming to be him, could we at the very least update the pic to a capture fromt the recent trailer?

That was the old version of Chris from the very first teaser vid. The current "look" just appears to be tweaked and changed, but you can see that it was/still is Chris. But I agree, that render of Chris should be replaced by a (properly sourced rationale) picture of the latest Chris design. Parjay 03:37, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Which do you think is better? A, B, or C? I kinda like A and B, but that's my opinion. --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 03:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd go with B, see his face more clearly, the patch on his arm, and less of his ridiculous arms. Parjay 04:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I like A, the lighting is better than B. Toolucky52384 15:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

... it's Chris it says in the new trailer.--Hitamaru 17:18, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

He knows it's Chris, did you read his post completely> ("He is wearing different clothes than Chris is wearing in the latest preview (the one confirming the main character to be chris)") He's talking about the really old render of Chris, that Capcom aren't using now (ie BSSA, new uniform etc.) Parjay ► Talk 17:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

B is too dark on my computer. I would go with A or C. Jonny2x4 22:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

There's too much going on in C. I'd go with A or B. Grandmasterka 21:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

the NZ edition

Parjay keeps reverting my edits, but it's confirmed on ebgames. Check out ebgames.co.nz --Willy, your mate 07:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

EB Games, Gamestop, and all those other stores practically pull dates out of the air. They've changed the drop date for Metroid Prime 3, STALKER, and several other games until thier official creators confirmed the date. They had a debate something like this on the StarCraft II. We're better off just waiting for Capcom to say something official. --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 14:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

As I already informed you, EBgames is not a reliable source. Parjay ► Talk 16:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

On what grounds are you saying EBgames is not a reliable source? They, along with their parent company (GameStop) are a multi-billion dollar corporation. They are not some shady, obscure or questionable source. They are not some online website or source either. So I ask, on what grounds? 72.49.194.69 01:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC) Joshua

See the StarCraft II discussion. EB games is not very accurate when it comes to making statements about a video games release date. Also, the game's producer has stated the game will not likely be released in 2008.[6] --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 02:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

It'll still be released on December 1 2007. You may revert it, but you'll have a piece of information missing in the article. And I wouldn't say EBgames isn't a "reliable source", but that is still the cover. I did not put back the NZ edition section, but still it's been confirmed in NZ and AU that it'll be released on that date.--Willy, your mate 03:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, let's take bets on when it actually gets released... You go with what EB Games makes up, I'll go with what an industry magazine tells us. I'm more comfortable with the magazine. It's a reliable source. Grandmasterka 08:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Willy, it hasn't been confirmed for release date in ANY country. Also, why take the word of EBgames over the word of Jun Takeuchi who's actually making the game? Parjay ► Talk 12:12, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I never said their word superceded the producers word. That is CERTAINLY not the case. I'm simply asking why EBgames(GameStop) cannot be considered a reliable source? Capcom has already said Resident Evil 5 has been delayed to 2009. I am not argueing that. But for future referance, why is EBgames not a reliable source? 72.49.194.69 14:38, 31 July 2007 (UTC) Joshua

Well for one, they make up release dates. Parjay ► Talk 15:26, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Make up release dates? I was told their release dates are what the publisher tells them it is? 72.49.194.69 21:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC) Joshua

Well whoever told you that they get these dates from some place other than a magical realm of fantasy is either stupid or a liar. They make up release dates on a frequent basis sheerly so they can have a date so people will do pre-orders. They do best guesses, and they tend to be way off more than they are right.Brokenscope 13:27, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Girl in Trailer

Why has the image of the woman at the end of the extended E3 trailer been removed? 129.97.231.131 01:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm guessing because it did not have a proper fair use rationale or source. --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 01:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

You're guessing? Or you know? Because your name is tagged on the change that removed it. 129.97.231.131 01:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, yeah. I removed it because it did not have a source or fair use rationale. The image will likely be deleted soon. >_> --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 02:14, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Racism Controversy

"The new Resident Evil video game depicts a white man in what appears to be Africa killing Black people," claims the African womens' blog. She said "people depicted as zombies and "inhuman savages" "The Black people are supposed to be zombies and the white man's job is to destroy them and save humanity," the post continues. "This is problematic on so many levels, including the depiction of Black people as inhuman savages, the killing of Black people by a white man in military clothing, and the fact that this video game is marketed to children and young adults. Start them young... fearing, hating, and destroying Black people." [7]

• 1. This RE5 page is not Parjay's page.
• 2. you must dispute at talk page before you delete it OK?
• 3. news source is not blog, i sourced from CVG.
• 4. in this game, "white people kill many black people" this is racism factor.

the killing of Black people by a white man in military clothing, and the fact that this video game is marketed to children and young adults. Start them young... fearing, hating, and destroying Black people.Nakagawa0 16:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

1. Of course it isn't. But I AM allowed to edit it. 2. You must back up your claim on talk page before ADDING it. You still haven't. Especially notability. 3. Source is a blog, it was reported in CVG. 4. In your opinion, and Wiki isn't a place to force your point of view. Also, RE isn't marketed to young children, how could it be? Again, unless you provide nobaility and more source, one blog comment is NOT a controversy. Parjay ► Talk 16:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, in the comments section the writer of the article states that it was "tongue-in-cheek". Even less notable now. Parjay ► Talk 16:48, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Nakagawa, quit while your behind. To begin with, no one had even confirmed that the game will take place in Africa. Second, the statement “The new Resident Evil video game depicts a white man in what appears to be Africa killing Black people” needs various citations. Cite that Redfield is actually a Caucasian, not a "minority who looks like one". You need an official source to claim that Redfield is infact only killing “African” people. If this truly is a controversial topic, you are going to need multiple reliable references – or else it will be no different from some political blog. And its just a blog… hey, let’s claim that Jesus was Hitler – this website backs it up! In other words, CVG is just reporting one whack job’s opinions; if various media outlets said that the Rainbow Push Coalition was boycotting the game, then that would be something. Given WP:Cite, WP:RS, and WPA supersede most discussions, I’m removing the content until a notable media outlet picks up the story since it sounds incredible libelous.

Okay, so what if it seems that a white man is killing black people? That might spark controversy, but, like someone before me already said, Resident Evil 4 featured a caucasian U.S. Government Agent killing a bunch of Hispanic people, but that never sparked controversy. Was it because there was also another Hispanic, as well as an Asian-American killing them, too? Does it matter? If so, does anyone have any proof that Chris is the only one on earth killing these people? Also, to be fair, all other Resident Evil games feature Caucasians killing Caucasians, how is that not racist as well? --Sherwood-Nightshade 17:52, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

* 1.news source is not blog, i sourced from CVG.

* 2. in this game, "white people kill many black people" this is racism factor. the killing of Black people by a white man in military clothing, and the fact that this video game is marketed to children and young adults. Start them young... fearing, hating, and destroying Black people. << so, capcom accused by afrian women. do you think that this is not a racism controversy?Nakagawa0 17:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

you are recognition that 'racism controversy' "happen" by african women. and CVG adoption this issue. this issue is not made by me. also,'racism controversy' clearly happen. also, this situation is true. Nakagawa0 17:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

news source is not blog, Like already mentioned, the news source IS a blog. CVG are reporting on one person's BLOG ENTRY. Parjay ► Talk 17:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

blog or non-blog source? it is not important. 'racism controversy' "happen" by african. this is point.Nakagawa0 17:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

No, the point is that one blog user is not notable. Parjay ► Talk 18:02, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

oh~ according to your claim, "controversy must happen by notable people" why? racism controversy always happen by minor (non-notable) people. like a Rodney King. Nakagawa0 18:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Like already mentioned, the writer of the source states in the comments that it was "tongue-in-cheek", ie, non-serious. Parjay ► Talk 18:07, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

CVG is not a "tongue-in-cheek" site. and african woman's claim stance is not "tongue-in-cheek". and i already mentioned, racism controversy happen by minor (non-notable) people. like a Rodney King. Nakagawa0 18:09, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

CVG reported on a blog article, the writer of the blog article states that it was "tongue in cheek". Look in the comments of her article. Also, King became world famous due to worldwide television news coverage. That's notability. And it wasn't merely his "opinion", it was an act committed against him. This is one woman's blog comment. Also, the woman clearly (and admits) she knows nothing of video games. So how can her entry be notable, when it includes such falsities as RE5 being "marketed to children"? Parjay ► Talk 18:14, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

1. the writer of the blog article states that it was "tongue in cheek". <<< bloger article is not "tongue in cheek" article. (what is the standard of "tongue in cheek"?)

2. worldwide television news coverage <<< "this is after Rodney King, i talk about before Rodney King." she is a before Rodney King.

3. RE5 being "marketed to children"? <<< " do you think that children will not play this game?" i mean, this is not a PG-13 issue. game contain 'killing blackperson' things. many people play this game. including children. the killing of Black people by a white man in military clothing, and the fact that this video game is marketed to children and young adults. Start them young... fearing, hating, and destroying Black people. this is the problem.

4. Like already mentioned, 'racism controversy' "happen" by african. this is the main point.Nakagawa0 18:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

1. Again, THE WRITER STATES that it IS TONGUE-IN-CHEEK.

2. She is NOT a "before Rodney King". King had a hate ACT committed AGAINST him. This woman is merely an OPINION.

3. Children playing it is not the point. She claims Capcom are marketing the game to children - they are not.

4. That is your point, and personal opinions are not to be added to wiki articles. You are also not taking into account that this game is being made by Asian developers, NOT "white people". Parjay ► Talk 18:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps, Nakagawa you can bring this elsewhere. This is not the place for this type of discussion, and this one person's opinion; whether right or wrong, will NOT be included in the article so I do not see the significance. Save you arguments for usertalk pages, as this page directly relates to material being added to the article. This is an opinion, not official reception to the game. Please, if you need to continue arguing bring it elsewhere. Peregrine 18:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Furthermore, I am taking it upon myself to delete the "racism controversy" section. If there is offical media reception, meaning a news story or news article, not a blog, then perhaps it can be added. Peregrine 18:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

1. what is your standard of "tongue in cheek"?

2. that is not important. important thing is, she is a african, and she feel this game is a racism.

3. sure, Capcom are not the game to children. do you think that children will not play this game? my 13 years old brother played GTA. can you guarantee that children will not play this game?

4. that is not my point. racism controversy happen by african. not by me.Nakagawa0 18:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

This isn't the place, like I said. Please, argue on a usertalk page. This is completely ridiculous. There is NO CONTROVERSY. Arguement, over. Anything else can be discussed elsewhere. This is the in-proper usage of a article discussion page. Please, do not drag this on any longer. Peregrine 18:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

racism controversy happen by african.. and CVG adoft this issue. not by me. also, discussion is not finished. delete artcle is vandalism.Nakagawa0 18:41, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

1. Tongue-in-cheek

2. And what if a white person writes a blog article thinking the game is racist because it doesn't include martians. Should that be added to the wiki too?

3. Marketing. Wether kids play it or not is up to the parents, but marketing to children Capcom is not. No RE game has been marketed to children.

4. And her point is non-notable. See 2. Parjay ► Talk 18:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Peregrine, this discussion is a dispute over content of the article, this is exactly where it's suppose to happen. Parjay ► Talk 18:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

1. not definition. pakayaro. what is "your" standard of Tongue-in-cheek?

2. you so confused. she is a african, and she feel this game is a racism. this is the point.

3. can you guarantee that children will not play this game? this game's racism influence to adult, too. not child issue.

4. racism controversy happen by african. << you did not beat it. try again.Nakagawa0 18:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I know that, Parjay. But you know what else, I think the mass-majority has decided that is ISN'T going to be in the article. I think you two are argueing for argument's sake and not for the good of the article. I think Nagawaka is just being stubborn and this is completely ridiculous. This is going on too long, regardless. Peregrine 18:45, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think you do. If you would read over the conversation you'd realise I'm not aruging for the sake of it (how dare you), we're disputing it because Nakagawa0 is continually adding back said content, check the history. Parjay ► Talk 18:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

are you same person?Nakagawa0 18:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I read it, and I honestly think all he's trying to do is cause trouble. Maybe you're not argueing for the the heck of it (sorry if I offended you), but he certainly is. There is no way this belongs in the article. That is ALL I am trying to say, and I just think it needs to end. Peregrine 18:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree. He is now "down to the last" and continually reposts the same arguement as a reply to further damaging information from the other editors. Until he can post something substantial, his article edits will be removed, and nothing further needs stated at this moment. Parjay ► Talk 18:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

i know, only you 2 (maybe same guy?) are against of me. but you did not beat racism controversy happen by african..Nakagawa0 18:56, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

racism controversy happen by african. << this situation is clearly happen. why do you think this is not 'out of topic'? in blade runner page (i mean, any movie), you can easily find "triva information" also, triavia info. is off topic. but they do not delete it. you must prove it, why racism controversy article must delete? you must prove it.Nakagawa0 18:56, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Like I said before, if you're going to add racism controversy to RE5, you'll have to add it to either all other RE articles, or at least RE4. I just can't believe that "Killing black people" in an area that might be primarily African populated sparks controversy, but "Killing Hispanics" in a primarily Hispanic populated area does not. So much for racial equality.--Sherwood-Nightshade 21:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

This is retarded, so for once Resident Evil decides to kill a few black guys, wahhhhhhhh! oh no thats so racist, what about the thousands of whites that were killed in pervious games, i have not heard a single "oh heeeeeeeeeell naw, dats racist!" yet, if anything RE is getting more diverse by letting other races get slaughtered, its about time they opened their racialy biased eyes and stopped killing only whites! you see how much sense that makes, but people dont think of it like that, they see a white guy killing a black guy and label the game KKK approved, its done, chris killed a black guy, boohoo, it's pointless to say its racist when its not, just the same ol fashioned violence, and gore is not color biased...REexpert 22:46, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Of course it's nonsense. Nakagawa0 is just a troll, for which he is now blocked. Let's stop discussing this completely pointless topic.--Atlan (talk) 06:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Agreed...REexpert 21:57, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Of course. Racism should only be added if it makes national news.--Sherwood-Nightshade 00:11, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Proof Of Ada Wong?

I checked Sally Cahill's IMDB,it's list that she's Voicing ada wong in BioHazard 5. I don't know if this a Cameo or Main Character also should this be added to the Article Source:http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0128691/

No, anyone can add to IMDB. Look at the RE5 page on IMDB for a prime example. Parjay ► Talk 19:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

OOOOOO... >.< Damnit. Well i'll keep looking :(.--Hitamaru 20:18, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Gameplay

The picture seems similiar to that of RE 4. Possibly i could add to that.

If you want, but I think we already mentioned its very similar to RE4 in the actual Gameplay section. --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 19:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh i see. My apologies. I Think this will be released in 2008 and not 2009 because it seems to making so much progress and its already released a couple of trailers. its even showed us a gameplay pic DeadWood 19:39, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Anything can be demo for example Final Fantasy 13's first trailer while showing gameplay,it's not finished. But that game is far from Completion.--Hitamaru 20:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)