Talk:René Balcer

Quotations

There should not be 5000+ quotations in the middle of the article. Note that the WP:BURDEN for its inclusion falls upon you. Tutelary (talk) 23:30, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

There are not 5000+ quotations, there are maybe two dozen, at the end of the article, not in the middle of it. The articles are independently sourced, either to news media or to the relevant episodes written by Mr. Balcer. nick5oh — Preceding undated comment added 00:17, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Even if it was reliable sourced, WP:UNDUE must be invoked. The length must satisfy the sources. 5000+ was referring to the letter count. Unless it's some quantum theory of mechanics, I don't see the relevance of such quotes in a WP:BLP article. Tutelary (talk) 00:21, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

What does WP:UNDUE have to do with this? WP:UNDUE has to do with representing minority viewpoints in an article. These quotations aren't minority viewpoints - they're the viewpoint of the subject of the article. As for relevance, the quotes reveal the thinking and values of the person of the article's subject and what informs his writing. Are you proposing to eliminate all quotes from all articles? nick5oh — Preceding undated comment added 04:35, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I am. Wikipedia is not a bulk onset of information and should not be considered as such. The quotes take up a large majority of the article. They should be removed, and then replaced with reliable sources including such 'values' rather than all of these quotes. They are not encyclopedic, either. Tutelary (talk) 10:18, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

The quotes do not take up the majority of the article, neither in word count nor in line count. Nothing in WP:NOT or in the rules specifically disallows quotes - as long as quotes are relevant, informative, and independently sourced, they fall within the guidelines. I'm sure you know that most of the biographical articles on WK include quotes (i.e. Churchill, Aristotle) - it would be interesting to read the article on Churchill after you've eliminated all the quotes from it. It may be encyclopedic ( i.e. a la Encyclopedia Britannica) but it will no longer be encyclopedic (i.e. comprehensive). user:nick5oh — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.251.28.90 (talk) 14:58, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Per WP:QUOTEFARM: "Overuse happens when: a quotation is used without pertinence". There's no indication either from the quotes itself, or from any supplementary content as to why we need to list his views on topics as broad as "Los Angeles" and "torture". It's utterly redundant. -SFK2 (talk) 01:41, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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