Talk:Rayman (video game)

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There I started the clean-up of this article. Removed the tag (which was already on it since June!). I'll finish it later on. --Steerpike 22:29, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Update: consider it done for now. --Steerpike 11:32, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

Fair use of the images

Why were all the screenshots removed? I don't understand. These are free promotional caps from the game? I have no clue who took them but does it matter? It's always the same image regardless. --Steerpike 15:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, we need to know who took the screenshots in general; oftentimes people will rip off screenshots from game sites, which isn't okay. Also, user-made screenshots of Ubi-owned games are free (as in libre), so we should use those instead of other screenshots. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 08:55, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Technically I don't see the difference between a screenshot taken by me or taken by a game site. It could be the exact same shot, and who can tell the difference? Why not put your own name under it? Anyway, the fact is that I don't remember where I got the screenshots. Some from the gallery at mobygames, possibly. --Steerpike 11:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

A game site may have a copyright claim, based on their choice of when the screenshot was taken. It's lame, but it's there. If you didn't take the screenshots, they really need to go, to be replaced with screenshots taken by the uploader. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 11:30, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

In other words, I could have said I took them and no-one would have been the wiser. This all strikes me as slightly absurd. However, the truth is I don't really care one way or another. I mean, it's been a while since I contributed to this page and have had it off watch for quite some time now. I won't revert it back or anything. Cheers. --Steerpike 15:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Well. Yeah. Basically it's due diligence for sourcing images; if you lie about it, it's your problem when the copyright holder gets annoyed (or when someone notices the images somewhere else). We just need someone to take their own images, that's all. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 15:57, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Rayman Junior

There was a spin off seris called rayman junior... It was centralised on learning, does this deserve a mention on the bottom of the article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.137.67.157 (talk) 16:44, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

Raving Rabbids

Shouldn't Raving Rabbids be considered a spinoff since it isn't really the same kind of game (minigame collection vs. platformer)? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.116.246.5 (talk) 14:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC).

Also it says that its being released for Xbox 1, Game Cube and PS3 which is false according to its page Bushido Brown 12:11, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Rayman no longer exists

Now I'm no expert, and neither do I know what was there before, but it seems insane that there are articles called Rayman (video game), Rayman (series) and Rayman (character), but no article under the namespace Rayman as of 19:46 today. Surely one of the three should be moved to the main namespace? U-Mos 20:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Original Rayman.jpg

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BetacommandBot 09:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Raymano.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Something Wicked This Way Comes connection?

Okay, I noticed today something odd--the boss of the game is Mr. Dark, the last level seems carnival-ish (mainly due to the presence of clown enemies), Space Mama (who appears again in this level) sprinkles dust on you, and the game is called RAYman...doesn't this sound like Something Wicked This Way Comes? Mr. Dark and a carnival appear, Space Mama could be the Dust Witch, and the character is named Rayman, possibly after Bradbury. Think this is worthy of mention? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.243.176.166 (talk) 03:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

"The PlayStation version has fewer lums"

Maybe someone could define the word "lum" here. The only definition I could find on wikipedia says "an item in the rayman game", which isn't exactly helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.252.236.219 (talk) 07:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

"This idea was scrapped for obvious reasons"

"Early in its life, Rayman was going to be about an eleven-year-old boy named Jimmy. Jimmy takes advantage of the realms that he discovers within his computer to create a fantasy world called Hereitscool. When evil invades Hereitscool, Jimmy turns into a superhero named Rayman to save Hereitscool. This idea was scrapped for obvious reasons [...]" Perhaps an explanation of quite what these reasons are would be a good thing, I'm not getting anything especially obvious (unless it's "because that was stupid", but it really isn't all that much compared to some other games). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.243.53 (talk) 11:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Jaguar version

It seems to me the jaguar version is completely and utterly wrong and rather misleading. It sounds, from reading the Jaguar section, as if the other consoles versions of Rayman were made first and they thought "hey lets make a Jaguar version and ignore parts from the ps1 version etc." Problem is the Jaguar version was the original (and even the release dates on this very article back that up) so that rather than being, for example, "The ability to shrink is also missing from this version and one of the last boss phases (Space Mamas) has been completely ignored" that explanation ought to be in a different section of the article and should read more like "Newer versions, released after the Jaguar original, added the ability to shrink and included whole new areas not seen in the original Jaguar game, such as the boss phase Space Mamas." It strikes me that the Jaguar section is incredibly poorly written. I mean; if you read lord of the rings and Tolkien started to use the future tense to refer to the past, you would be very confused. Well that's exactly what this article seems to have done. 86.134.15.151 (talk) 14:08, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Done…well, kinda. Hey, it's a start! - someone who just all-caged Dream Forest and must now tackle Gong Heights (a breeze compared to Bongo Hills) :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.252.243 (talk) 23:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I've found more in regards to the Jaguar version! Feel free to check them out! KGRAMR (talk) 00:17, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• http://www.arcadeattack.co.uk/frederic-houde-rayman/
• https://archive.org/details/Gamefan_Vol_2_Issue_09
• https://archive.org/details/Gamefan_Vol_2_issue_10
• https://archive.org/details/Gamefan_Vol_3_Issue_02
• https://archive.org/details/Gamefan_Vol_3_Issue_05
• https://archive.org/details/Gamefan_Vol_3_Issue_09

Section Request: Plot

I know little of this game, but this article doesn't seem to even really mention a plot. I suggest adding a section with the plot of the game, because it seems this article is implying that the game has no storyline. 70.15.212.110 (talk) 18:33, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Playable on PS3

I was looking to see how I could play this game and was disappointed to see it hadn't been added to PSN according to this page, but I went to check and it is on their store! So can we add "PSN" or "Playstation 3" to the platforms list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.241.113 (talk) 17:13, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

The PlayStation 3 version available for purchase on PSN is a PS2 Classic, meaning that the game files from the PS2 version are taken and emulated on PS3 hardware. Per our guidelines, we do not elaborate on emulations in such a regard. Lordtobi (✉) 17:17, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

According to the PS Store it is a PSOne Classic: https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-gb/games/rayman/cid=EP0001-NPEF00023_00-GRAYMANXXX000001 As far as I know the PS2 is unrelated, the game was never on the PS2 was it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.122.241.113 (talk) 14:49, 28 January 2017‎

Correct, my mistake. It is, however, the same result: An old game only emulated on (not ported to) a specific other platform, wherefore it does not belong to the infobox. Lordtobi (✉) 15:35, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Import from Polish Wikipedia

Can we start importing stuff from Polish Wikipedia, mainly legacy and sequels?

• Can we expand the release section? Rayman was first released for the Jaguar in 1995. 78.148.59.52 (talk) 12:43, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Is it reliably sourced? Do we have someone who can reliably translate? That should answer your question. Sergecross73 msg me 01:47, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

No Android version anymore?

Is there still no Android version anymore? --Jobu0101 (talk) 22:48, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Sources

• https://archive.org/details/the-play-station-9-7-28-1995/page/86/mode/1up

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Rayman (video game)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: NatwonTSG2 (talk · contribs) 23:35, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Vrxces (talk · contribs) 09:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

I can take this one on. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 09:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

• Hi @NatwonTSG2:, I will add more soon but here are some initial comments!

Review

Has the nominator significantly contributed to the article? Yes, quite clear you've added a lot to the article.

Does the article conform to the general standards of WP:VG articles including the WP:VG/MOS? Yes, all good here:

• The Development section's subsections are fine. If you wanted to simplify them further, you could break them down to 'Concept' and 'Design' but not a big deal!

Is the article generally well-written? Grammar needs a copyedit. I have the faintest hint that this could be because the article originally was transposed from the French version or had a multilingual editor, which is understandable! See below:

• Commas and sentence flow are a tricky thing to get right. There's a few mistakes in this article where the commas get in the way of the flow of the sentence:

• Lead P2 S1 - Can remove the comma.
• Gameplay P1 S1 - Can remove the second comma.
• Conception P2 S6 - A second comma is needed here after his in-game avatar. Alternately change to his in-game avatar Rayman and remove all commas.
• Completion P2 S5 - Add a comma after announced and remove the one after however, or rewrite to were also announced but never released.

• It's important to manage the tense, which should be the present tense. Past tense is only used for a gameplay section if the game is no longer playable:

• Gameplay P1 S3 - gained to gains
• Gameplay P1 S4 - included to include
• Completion P2 S5 - replace has with had - obviously it's no longer considered lost if it has been discovered, so the tense needs to change.

• There's a bunch of WP:LQUOTE punctuation issues. I used to fall afoul of this quite a lot. Make sure to only keep punctuation in the quotation marks if a complete sentence is being quoted.

• Some other minor fixes:

• • Gameplay P1 S1 - Omit it from which it
  • Gameplay P1 S2 - Omit as from The player controls as
• Gameplay P2 S1 - In each world ends is unclear. Perhaps: Completion of each world requires defeating a boss with special abilities at the end of the level.
• Completion P1 S1 - Replace who with where or who he with and'.
• Completion P1 S5 - Suggest inserting the Atari Jaguar, a console that
• Release P1 S2 - Can remove the in which isn't necessary.
• Reception P1 S4 - fifth=generation > fifth-generation
• Reception P3 S1 - received mixed review - received mixed reviews or similar
• Reception P4 S4 best visually games -> Something else - maybe most visually appealing. Best to check what the source actually said on this one.

Is the article broad enough in its coverage and contains reliable sourcing?

• Out of nowhere there appears content about Rayman Advance which is not supported by information in the article. Is this a port or remake? Does its gameplay differ at all from the original title, and is there release information on it?

Do the sources cited verify the text in the article? Spot check TBA.

Are media and links properly attributed and do not have copyright issues? The images within the article appear to be attributed and licensed correctly.

• Two screenshots in an article tends to be discouraged per the WP:VG/MOS, which states that additional screenshots are required to have stronger justification for their use, backed by third-party or secondary sources, regardless of what aspects of a game they show. Is the depiction of the SNES graphics of Rayman treated with detail in the article and sourcing? Is this justified adequately in the rationale for the image?

Any other personal opinions or miscellaneous feedback that may or may not be relevant to the nomination? See below:

Plot

• As per WP:VGPLOT, you don't need to cite the game's basic plot on a specific point, as seems to be the case here. Can omit or put at the end. Manuals are also generally not seen as preferred sources if reliable secondary ones are available.

Development

• Absolutely accept that Laura Kate Dale's book is a reliable source of commentary, but as we're looking for evidence of the game's development and not commentary, it it's far better to find a primary source on this: these magazines on the Internet Archive seem to mention the original concept.

Reception

• As expressed in WP:QUOTE and WP:VG/REC, the quotes in this section are very long and opportunities to paraphrase. This section probably needs a rewrite to edit down the long quotes that appear in this section, which are considerable.

• Also under WP:VGREC, many of the paragraphs imply a theme but are not explored. For instance, the second paragraph seems to be a collection of Jaguar reviews, and and not actually about what is implied by the first sentence. Other than the Advance version, it's probably best to focus on the key themes i.e. platforming gameplay, visuals and so on and organise comments from reviews about this.

• The graphics received mixed review from reviewers is a tautology.

Legacy

• ...helped spawn a franchise that spawned is also a tautology

• Suggest not mentioning Spooky Raymansion unless these are notable aspects of the coverage in the articles.

• The Fans hoped and still hope for the game to become an official and canonical game has to go as unverifiable speculation. For one, the first two citations don't state that, with the Gipp source even dreading the encroaching beige of the prospect of a remake. The VK source is WP:USERG and at any rate inaccessible.

My question

• For the details of the second screenshot of Rayman on SNES, it seems that the image was intended to illustrate and identify what the game originally looked like before development being pushed to the Jaguar. While when looking at it rationale, it seems that it used a video game emulator as a source and the fact that the image is demonstrate when necessary so. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 13:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks. Doesn't seem like a problem really so happy to keep. Could you please let me know if you have actioned the above? Welcome to tick Y or strike through things to demonstrate this. I will try and get around to wrapping up the above as soon as I can. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 01:47, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

  What do you means by the above, isn't it the review in the top of the talk which It I doY or isn't it the good article nominations at the top so. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 12:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

  Oh, as in, just to make it a little easier to see what you've done, could you tick or strike through the above comments if you've actioned them in the article? Thanks! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 06:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback so:

• Lead P2 S1 - Y
• Gameplay P1 S1 - Y
• Conception P2 S6 - Y, remove all commas
• Completion P2 S5 - Y
• Gameplay P1 S3 - Y
• Gameplay P1 S4 - Y
• Completion P2 S5 - Y
• Gameplay P1 S1 - Y
• Gameplay P1 S2 - Y
• Gameplay P2 S1 - Y
• Completion P1 S1 - Replace who with where or who he with and
• Completion P1 S5 - Y
• Release P1 S2 - Y

NatwonTSG2 (talk) 12:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Cheers. I'm sorry, I've been interstate. I'll take another review of the article and do a spot check. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 23:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

While I did fix those new changes at the top of the article, there are some fixes and questions like for Rayman Advance which it's a port to the original game, the mentioning of The Spooky Raymansion which i put it here since it unlikely for Rayman Redemption to explain on it Independent article and the information about the fans wanted the fan remake to became an official game is removed alongside with the two citations. NatwonTSG2 (talk) 22:02, 15 May 2024 (UTC)