Talk:Ralph Pena (musician)
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Requested move 22 December 2023 edit
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The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:43, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
Ralph Peña (musician) → Ralph Pena – Sole Wikipedia entry bearing this exact main title header thus obviating need for the parenthetical qualifier "(musician)". As for the diacritic, subject was an American, born in Nevada, whose name was not rendered with a diacritic, as confirmed by his album covers and entries at AllMusic and Apple Music. Since Ralph Pena currently redirects to the two-man Ralph Peña disambiguation page, the dab page can be deleted and a hatnote atop Ralph Pena can point to Ralph B. Peña, who was born in Manila and does use a diacritic, while a hatnote atop Ralph B. Peña can likewise point to Ralph Pena. A nomination which resulted in the move of Ralph Peña → Ralph B. Peña was recently concluded at Talk:Ralph B. Peña#Requested move 24 November 2023. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:32, 22 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 07:48, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Move to Ralph Pena (musician). Unaccented spelling seems to be most common, but still ambiguous with Ralph B. Peña. 162 etc. (talk) 04:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Users researching Ralph Pena (musician) should be able to simply type "Ralph Pena" to access his entry, while users researching Ralph B. Peña should be likewise able to simply type "Ralph Peña" to access his entry. Since most English Wikipedia users are likely to type "Ralph Pena" in researching either man, the musician's entry should carry the hatnote — This article is about the musician. For the artistic director, see Ralph B. Peña. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:33, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- They are ambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 18:43, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Resolvable via hatnotes. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:41, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- They are ambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 18:43, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
- Users researching Ralph Pena (musician) should be able to simply type "Ralph Pena" to access his entry, while users researching Ralph B. Peña should be likewise able to simply type "Ralph Peña" to access his entry. Since most English Wikipedia users are likely to type "Ralph Pena" in researching either man, the musician's entry should carry the hatnote — This article is about the musician. For the artistic director, see Ralph B. Peña. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:33, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 16 March 2024 edit
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as proposed. BD2412 T 02:34, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Ralph Peña (musician) → Ralph Pena (musician) – As indicated in the previous move request, directly above, subject was an American, born in Nevada, who did not use a diacritic in his name, a fact confirmed by his album covers and entries at AllMusic and Apple Music. The sole vote submitted in the previous RM proposed the alternative option that appears in this RM. The original RM may also remain an option, depending upon consensus. That option posits that since Ralph Pena currently redirects to the two-man Ralph Peña disambiguation page, the dab page can be deleted and a hatnote atop Ralph Pena can point to Ralph B. Peña, who was born in Manila and does use a diacritic, while a hatnote atop Ralph B. Peña can likewise point to Ralph Pena. A nomination which resulted in the move of Ralph Peña → Ralph B. Peña is at Talk:Ralph B. Peña#Requested move 24 November 2023. —. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:23, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support per my suggestion in the previous RM. Oppose any change to the disambiguation page, which should be nominated explicitly, or in its own discussion. 162 etc. (talk) 17:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 13:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)