Talk:Raising the Bar (2008 TV series)

Sources for Information for Article

Where are the sources? This article appears to have no cited sources. Could someone find sources for this article so that the information is verifiable. Zweinstein (talk) 19:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Expansion needed

As the first season is over (the season finale will air next week), surely there should be more character development – the grudging respect that grows between Jerry Kellerman and Judge Kessler, as an example. Or how about Charlie Sagansky finally coming out of the closet? —MicahBrwn (talk) 06:20, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

While I support contributions like that, unless they can be sourced, only concrete information (like Charlie coming out) can be listed, otherwise it will be declared original research and will probably be deleted by a less-forgiving user. Also, where the hell do you see respect between Kellerman and Kessler? kingdom2 (talk) 16:40, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

He said respect, not magnanimity. I think there is definitely some somewhat obvious respect that can sometimes be seen. But it's still OR, like you said. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.99.170.38 (talk) 29 October, 2008

Character development can be sourced by the episode that shows it. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 22:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

That statement is debatable. Several users have vastly different views of the phrase "acceptable use of a primary source". Some users, particularly inclusionists like myself, believe that primary sources should be able to be used for things like character development. However, there are also a large number of users who have a more narrow view of acceptable use and would not allow it. A brief description of each character with their position, basic beliefs, relationships, and backgrounds would be fine, but anything else could be considered going into the realm of OR. Like I said, it is a very debatable and very iffy subject. kingdom2 (talk) 23:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters

A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion

or exclusion of episodes and characters, as well as other fiction articles. Please visit the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. Ikip (talk) 11:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Series Cancellation?

TNT is currently airing promos that begin with "With only two episodes left..." It could easily just be the end of the season, but considering the lackluster Season 2 ratings for the series I wouldn't be surprised if it is getting the axe. Anyone have a reliable source, though?