Talk:Radiant Historia/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 11:50, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
• It contains copyright infringements -
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

Prose

Lede

• Is the lede note a particularly worth it? I've seen it in prose before, it's not all that long Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I removed the Perfect Chronology note from the lead, but kept the other as it's become standard to put the Japanese/Romanji or general foreign language reading into a note so the lead doesn't get bloated.
• role-playing video game - reword to avoid SEAOFBLUE. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Sorted.
• Radiant Historia was developed by a team with staff drawn from both Atlus' Megami Tensei series, including Mitsuru Hirata in his debut as director, and Satoshi Takayashiki and artist Hiroshi Konishi from the tri-Ace title Radiata Stories. - the bit about Mitsuru being the director feels out of place, could this mention who is involved, and then a new sentence on Mitsuru's debut. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Reworked it.
• Could we add some reception into the lede? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Done.

General

• Running into them will trigger a battle, but Stocke can stun them with his sword and avoid battle - doesn't this also give them a pre-emptive? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Sorted.
• Is there no suggestion that Atlus is also known for Persona? I'd suggest that would trump Etrian Odyssey.
  • I removed Etrian Odyssey, but since Persona is a spin-off of Megami Tensei, I think that's covered by Megami Tensei overall.
• Was there a good reason for not releasing the original outside of Europe? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • None that I could find.
• The game's reviewers also praised Shimomura's work.[2][4][7][37][38] - WP:REFBOMB. Cleanup/combine into a single ref. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Moved to Reception and reworked.
• The game was reviewed positively - don't we usually use the wording from metacritic?
  • Done.
• The reception section is by far the weakest part of the article (the rest is really good). There's at least 6 good sources for each release that could be used to explain what items were well created and which were badly recieved. This one seems to blow through points. A little expansion needed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I've expanded it greatly.
• Upon its release, Radiant Historia debuted at #6 with 32,807 units, being the second highest new release following Fallout: New Vegas and selling through just under 44% of its initial shipment. - on what.
  • Sorted.
• Upon its North American debut, the game reached the top of the Nintendo DS charts - which charts? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Sorted, I hope.
• Perfect Chronology debuted in Japan at #1, selling 21,429 units and pushing Nintendo Switch exclusive Arms to #2 after two weeks at the top of the charts.[60] According to data from The NPD Group, the game was the third best-selling 3DS game in the region during February 2018.[61] In the United Kingdom, Perfect Chronology entered the 3DS gaming charts at eighth place.[62] - no details on NA? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:59, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Sorted.

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

• Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definitely not mandatory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}
  • I'm putting this one on hold. Most of the work is expanding the reception, and putting some info from this also into the lede. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
    • @Lee Vilenski: I think I've addressed all your concerns. If anything else appears, please let me know. --ProtoDrake (talk) 09:56, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
      • No problem. It was only the reception that was effecting a straight pass. Passing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:18, 7 May 2020 (UTC)