Talk:Q Christian Fellowship

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Moonraker0022 in topic Moved to Q Christian Fellowship

Hurrah! edit

Thanks for starting this page, Gerald!!! Aristophanes68 (talk) 15:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

My pleasure! --Gerald Farinas (talk) 03:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Side A/Side B edit

I've been told that the discussion of the two sides may not be clear enough to people unfamiliar with them. Any suggestions? Aristophanes68 (talk) 21:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Someone on the site suggested still more discussion, with perhaps links to the GCN pages and the Bridges Across the Divide page, where the terms originated. Aristophanes68 (talk) 23:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
I think it's important to mention that Side B does not encompass ex-gay viewpoints. Similarly, Side A does not encompass a total lack of sexual morality (that is, the same moral standards are expected of a Christian Side A gay relationship as are expected of a Christian straight relationship). Snickkers (talk) 13:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
Good point -- thanks!Aristophanes68 (talk) 03:45, 6 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

still stub class? edit

The stubs were removed from the page -- does this mean the page is no longer stub class? Aristophanes68 (talk) 02:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

  • Can we change the WikiProject ratings from Stub to Start Class now??? Aristophanes68 (talk) 03:14, 11 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Article is now rated Start-class, Low-importance Senator2029 | talk 22:29, 27 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Liberalism/Conservatism edit

The "Theology" section begins with the sentence "The Gay Christian Network as a body has a diverse set of theological beliefs from very liberal to very conservative", with the last words "liberal" and "conservative" linking to the Wikipedia entries "Liberalism" and "Conservatism", but I'm thinking the entries "Liberal Christianity" and "Conservative Christianity" would be more appropriate? The original links seem to be more about political beliefs (ie Democrats vs Republicans) than religious beliefs -- but maybe that was the original author's intent? Snickkers (talk) 14:00, 4 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Good point -- I suggest we change that -- in fact, I'll go ahead and do so! Thanks for catching that problem! Aristophanes68 (talk) 15:19, 4 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

notability warning! edit

We need to find some third-party references for this article. There are several third-party references on Justin's page, but I'm not sure they'll be as useful for this page. Help! Aristophanes68 (talk) 04:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

  • I added some more -- we now have four outside references. I'm sure there are more, if we can find them.... Aristophanes68 (talk) 06:48, 9 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Senator2029 | talk 22:29, 27 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

GCN Criticism edit

I took the anonymous complaints about the moderators and included them in a new section that discusses the way the site operates and that acknowledges some of the concerns these policies have raised (Site Policies). What other information should be included? Aristophanes68 (talk) 00:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

I'm moving the article text here:

Discussions on the website are monitored by a volunteer group of monitors according to a list of GCN Rules. Individual posts that are considered inappropriate can be "flagged" by the moderators, meaning that they are not readable until the original author modifies them; the contributor whose post has been flagged receives a private message stating the reason for the flag and inviting the person to contact the Moderator if there are any questions.
Because topics such as politics and sex and comments about moderator actions or discussion rules and policies have stirred up controversy on the site, whole threads can be moved to the "Sensitive Subjects" Forum, although the idea for this forum is that people would voluntarily start their threads there. The forum is optional, i.e., it is available only to those who have chosen to make it accessible from their user options page. (Several less controversial forums are also optional, e.g. the regional and denomination forums; making them optional helps keep the page visually manageable, so that users do not have to scroll through dozens of topics that are irrelevant to them.) Although the site states that the intention of moving controversial threads to a subscription-only area is to help keep arguments away from the main pages, some members find the policy too restrictive and/or feel that the moderators are too quick to move threads.
Another problem has arisen regarding underage members. Due to fears for their safety, policies have been enacted that prohibit most members from sending younger members private messages, and the site now forbids users to post links to their personal pages.

The information needs to be backed up by sources with in-line citation. Also, there is a Wikipedia policy on "original research" and NPOV "personal editorialism." Because of these points, as long as the section remains as it is, it places the entire article in jeapordy and possible deletion. --Gerald Farinas (talk) 03:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

  • How do we add citations when all the sources are from personal experience? Aristophanes68 (talk) 03:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
  • So we could tag Mr. Augusta's comments with citation needed and NPOV tags? Aristophanes68 (talk) 03:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)Reply
  • Not the NPOV tag. The template tags the entire article as NPOV, not the section in question. --Gerald Farinas (talk) 03:10, 11 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

In the end, it is only fair to have a section devoted to criticism of GCN. However, it cannot be presented the way it is written above. It has to follow Wikipedia policy. --Gerald Farinas (talk) 03:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Citation integration edit

I did some rewrites today to clean up the article, but the last section still needs work. Can we integrate some of the information from those sources into the main article instead of just listing them at the end? Proboscis monkey (talk) 04:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Moved to Q Christian Fellowship edit

Hello hello hello... I have moved the page to reflect the current name and redirected old GCN links to QCF links. Moonraker0022 (talk) 14:24, 10 April 2019 (UTC)Reply