Talk:Pune/Archive 1

Archive 1

Need Pictures

Hello People we need GPLed pictures of Pune for this article.

The traffic stuation in Pune is chaotic and we all need to do something.Any suggestions?

The road conditions need due attention. The growth in the vehicle population is not sustainable. We need to have control on the production of vehicles.

What we need is good public transport. Trains won't work and buses aren't enough, a two-wheeler is the best. The perimeters need to be better connected, all-in-all just another city.

Pune and Poona

It seems odd that this page [was] located at "Poona," mainly because hardly anyone uses this spelling though the name itself shares currency (perhaps more so than Pune) in spoken language. Simply put, Google, for instance, has over 500,000 hits for "Pune" and only 60,000 for "Poona." I am moving the page. --LordSuryaofShropshire 22:32, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)

Is Pune an Under rated Indian Metropolis ?

Define "under rated metropolis". SpikedZebra 22:12, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Happy Diwali

Tamaso ma jyotir gamaya ( Lead me from darkness to light.)
Wish you Happy Diwali
- P R A D E E P Somani (talk)
Feel free to send me e-mail.

Laxami Road is Disturbed by Budhawar Path

Hello,

Laxami road is totally disturbed by Budhawar Path due to prostitution belt or we can say Red Light area. It will effect teenager …….

Obscure information

There are some sections under Biodiversity which are totally obscure and have no significant w.r.t Pune city. e.g Fungi

71 genera belonging to 68 genera from 28 families have so far been reported. Ascomycetes members are represented by 4 genera belonging to 4 families. The remaining 64 genera belong to Basidiomycetes, with mushrooms constituting 38 of them from 12 families, Gastromycetes constituting 13 genera from 10 families and polypores constituting another 13 genera from 6 families.

We should remove such information from the main page. There could be a seperate "Biodiversity in Pune" page with a link to it on the main page.

hi salil, i completely agree, it looks very ridiculous. we can still keep a small section for "Biodiversity in Pune" with link to the main article. --ti 17:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

If anywhere, biodiversity should be discussed at Pune District rather than here, as it is certainly more relevant to a large district including many rural areas rather than a city of 4.4 million people. —Angr 12:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Regarding dedicated section on biodiversity and environment in the city

Soon I am going to initiate a section on biodiversity in the city. It will have a general introduction and information on trees, herbs, insects, butterflies and birds of Pune. There are tables and ckecklists of all these. I would like to know appropriate location to add the tables. Think Positive 12:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

All Peths In Pune City

May I have a reason to this deletion? All it needs is more links, cites, and perhaps a grammatical recreation. --Shanesan 07:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

name origin controversy introduced by 128.32.14.222

i have removed the following comment in the name section, since it does not mention any relevance to the name of the city. can someone confirm that the city may have derived its name from the Punyeshwar temple? also hindujagruti.org seems to be a religiously biased information source? are there more secular and credible sources for the same information

even if the information is correct, it is written in a very inflammatory style ("insignificant muslim zealots"??) and needs to be re-written. --ti 20:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

"Few know that Pune had 2 big temples Punyeshwar and Narayaneshwar temples dedicated to Lord Shiva and Lord Vishnu respectively. They were built by Yadav rulers. However, barbaric muslim rulers in 11th century destroyed those temples. Dargah related to insignificant muslim zealots were built on the ruins of temples by them. Dargah on Punyeshwar temple is called "Thorla Shaikh Sallah". Recently, ruins from temples were discovered when dargah collapsed recently <ref>{{cite web | last = Punyeshwara | first = Temple | url =http://http://www.hindujagruti.org/eng/phpnews | title =Destruction of Punyeshwar Temple by Muslim Rulers in Pune | accessdate =2006-10-27 }}</ref>"

Languages

It says though the mail language of Pune is Marathi, several other languages are spoken. Apart from Marathi, Hindi is the only other language widely spoken. Its true that Pune has people come from all over India, but give me a break .... general public do not speak Gujarati, Kannada or Tulu. Why not add Bengali, Tamil, Telugu & Malayalam ???? I guess its some Karnataka guy who is vandalising all the articles related to Maharashtrian cities. It Kolhapur...Solapur and now even Pune. Just refer to the Solapur article; they are talking as if Solapur was a 100 % Kannada speaking city and Maharashtra has just hijacked it. Even the Kolhapur page mentions the language to be spoken as Marathi & Kannada. Give me a break...........Come on Marathi Wikipedians ...do something

i agree. gujarati can be mentioned with other indian languages, but kannada and tulu are just not popular. we can link to the long-time pune authority [1] if needed as a reference. --ti 17:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

An Appeal

Please do not Vandalize this page with unnecessary links to pages (especially in the education and economy sections). If you do want to edit this page please please follow guidlines stated by the Wikiproject Indian cities. There are some great articles on Indian Cities on Wikipedia. Please follow the editorial pattern set by those cities.

--Aakkshay 20:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I have removed certain parts from the Education section. These lines reflected individual opinions and were generally unrelated to Pune (the city).

--Ashycool 18:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

marketing gimmick?

the section on food has the mention of a 'thali' available at a restaurant and also has its contact number . shouldn't it be deleted ? they have slipped in a bit of advertising which is of little use to a user seeking general information on pune . i am removing it. also someone please change the indic text for bhakarwadi , the marathi word is incorrectly spelt.

Clean up tag

I have removed this as it has been on the article 3 months and the article looks great to me, better than many city articles. Ras Billy I 14:52, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Names of companies

It seems that there is a mad rush for everyone who is reading this article to mention his/her company name among the prominent companies list. Please mention only those companies that are truly Indian or global GIANTS. Not every IT or any other company at every corner in Pune should be mentioned. Please avoid this tempation to keep the info truly meaningful.

I fully agree. Ras Billy I 19:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I also agree. The mad rush also includes adding a link within the content. Dude! if your company is worth so much, it most definately will have a wiki page of its own. If it does not, make one. thevikas (talk) 15:40, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup of History

In the view of a brief history of the city being present as a initial point, i think the History topic should be slightly edited. Mayuresh 19:59, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

In the "Name" section, it says "Pune started out as Punak-vishy — an agricultural settlement in the 7th century" whereas in the "History" section, the first line reads "Pune started out as Punnaka — an agricultural settlement in the 8th century." Can someone please correct either the first or the second sentence (both the name and the correct century)?

I've edited this section so that it makes more sense; although I'm not an authority on the history of the place. I have it as founded in the first century and simply evolving its name to "Punnaka" by the 8th century. Someone should correct this if I've got it wrong. --Quywompka 13:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Just removed a few lines which were describing about a company a bit too much. We here to talk about Pune so please restrain from explaning about new companies and what their plans and that goes out of scope of this article. Thanks. thevikas (talk) 03:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Information needed from students of geogrophy subject.

Fllowing are ancient teroteries under Maratha ruling goverments and modern scientific study is needed and a seprate article is required for respcted subjects . Bara Maval ( Twelv Maval ) area in Pune district 1) Andar Maval , 2) Nane Maval , 3) Mose maval , 4) Paud Maval , 5) Muthe Maval , 6) Karhat Maval , 7) Ghutan Maval , 8) Gunjan Maval 9) Kanad Maval , 10) Welwand Maval , 11) Bhor Maval , 12) Hirdas Maval . FROM :- VISHAL PRAKASH DUDHANE -- VISHAL1976

This isn't a site to vent your anger!

A lot of the language used in this article is absolutely apalling. In the demographics section, Punekars are described as smug, khadoos, blah, blah... In the same way, the road transport section claims the roads are the shittiest, and a nexus between some people and some other people. While these and more might be popular opinions, this is no place to express them! Do NOT write such crap here! Go vent your anger on some other website. Remember that wikipedia is ONLY for factual information, not crazed vitriol.

education section

i have spent all morning today revising education and trimming it vastly, putting the old material on Education in Pune. please format this article and add the major changes to it. i have added a few research institutes to the education section, and if you know other research institutes of NATIONAL STATURE, please add their names and a link.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, please stop adding colleges to the education list. Add to the List_of_Pune_Colleges if you wish to mention your college, and create a new article for it if the need arises. Prominent institutions such as COEP are in the main article just for an example. adding colleges and company names endlessly is no more than chest-thumping and looks ridiculous to a non-punekar.

i havent lived in pune for some time now, so if some of the facts are wrong, please feel free to correct them. if you have a nice picture of pune university or a college building, please add it.

--ti 17:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, There seem to be two "lists" as of now

1. List of colleges in Pune
2. List of engineering colleges in Pune

And i suspect there will soon be a List of schools in Pune too. This feels ok for now. However, we need to make sure that all of them are in a consistent format. Also, we need to decide on what information does and does not go in those list (see relevant talk pages for further discussion) -Mayuresh 19:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I just cleaned up and removed all links from the education section. Please everyone! this is not a link list page. Put your college in the designated page instead. Please keep the article tidy. Thanks. thevikas (talk) 15:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

University Education

Seems people are not in accordance with Tejas81 here , as they have added more colleges to the Education Section. Here i am speaking about Dina Institute and Modern Law College. A lot of people (esp current /passed outs) from these 2 colleges wont agree to me ,but addition of these 2 names does not suite the topic of the Section, also it no way matches the tone/ sense of the subsection. It merely looks like some one wants to mention the college names in this section. As suggested by Tejas81 .. please add the names to List_of_Pune_Colleges rather here.

Economy section rephrased

I have rephrased Economy section. It seemed that each user had appended information without taking cue of what is written above or below. Each line ended with "some x industry is also in pune". "... also in pune" was repeated many times. This has been removed and industries are now categorised. Each paragraph says about particular type of industry.

Also details like T-system is shifted to ICC, etc are removed. We don't need such minute details in encyclopedia.

I invite disscussion on this change.

Also i have started a new sub sub section, "List of majors having headquaters in pune". Help in growing it. Once big enough we can create a new category.

Please talk before u edit/delete. spacejuncky 06:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

All peths in pune city

Can we move all peths of pune city to history... :)

I mean, i think a section on peths of pune city is more suited as sub section of 'history'. Afterall the concept of peths and its nomencleture have history behind them, also this is unique to pune so cant be a main section. Main sections should remain as standard as possible. Please reply.

spacejuncky 06:05, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

hi spacejunky, i think we should start a separate section titled Neighborhoods and write about the peths there. i had suggested this as a subsection for template of indian cities on Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indian_cities, but noone followed up on it. maybe we should do that.. --ti 19:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

7th largest?

i think it is definitely 8th largest by any standard -city/metro area. mumbai, delhi, {calcutta, chennai, hydie, bangalore}, ahmedabad and only then pune. what is it that makes people want to inch up one place in these rankings!? --ti 19:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

name origin

is it punyanagari punnaka punyavishy or something else? can someone add references.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tejas81 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC).

Peths

Sub section Peths is currently in History section. If feel it should be in Culture section. What do you guys say?

spacejuncky 11:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Poona??

Is use of name "Poona" (generally pronounced by non-marathi speakers- Atleast pronounced in Gujarati and Hindi) worth mentioning? spacejuncky 06:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

NO. Pune is the official name of the city and different communities can call city with different names;that doesnt mean we include all. Maharashtraexpress 14:52, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

YES. Poona is worth mentioning. This MahrashtraExpress is a banned user. Better keep him out of the discussion.

--59.182.33.156 16:43, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

panoramic photo

added one, with code lifted from Atlanta. i am sure someone can take a better panoramic picture in better light and better editing from a better location. please do so and replace this one! lets add more photos to Pune! --ti 15:37, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Peacock terms

Hi, I agree there may be many peacock terms in whole article. For a while I am working in citing references of the facts presented in article Pune. Regarding eliminating peacock terms, I am dealing with one section at a time. In introductory para for example; for first line in second paragraph "...widely considered the cultural capital..." I have cited refrences which suggests that it is indeed called cultural capital. Same is the case with second line "... several esteemed colleges and educational institutions...". Now after citing these references, which justify above statments, do they still be considered having peacock terms

spacejuncky 03:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Pune neighborhoods

This section seems to be inconsistent and inaccurate. 'Laxmi Road', for example, can hardly be called a neighborhood. Moreover 'Wanavadi' has been mentioned as a separate neighborhood in the article whereas it has been classified under 'Kondhwa' in the article on 'Pune Neighborhoods'.

I suggest we remove the references in the main article and retain just the link which refers to Pune neighborhoods. Mukul2u 06:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

We can remove all existing sub sections of Pune neighborhoods, I'd like to stick with 7 or 8 neighborhoods mentioned in article Pune Neighborhoods. One can summarize them in this section of article Pune spacejuncky 07:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

That sounds great! I'll get a summary in place asap after going through the section on Pune neighborhoods.

Mukul2u 15:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Permission to delete the panoramic photo?

The idea of a panoramic photograph is appealing. However, the existing panoramic photograph has been poorly stitched and cropped and is serving no function apart to detract from the visual appeal of the article. Can we get rid of this and add one later after it has been reviewed by all contributors? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mukul2u (talk • contribs) 06:48, 7 May 2007 (UTC).

I agree, We can delete it. I will come up with better panoramic photo in future. But on contrary I really don't think there is need of a panoramic photo on main article. Taking reference of other city articles that have gained Featured status (like Mumbai , Delhi), none have anything like panoramic photo.spacejuncky 06:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Yup, seems to be more of a frill than anything else...I'll add some much needed photographs in sections like Transport in a couple of days.

Editing needed

1. "Schools in Pune are either run by the PMC, in which case they are called public schools, or privately by trusts and individuals."

Would it be more appropriate to distinguish between the trust run schools like Huzurpaga, New English school etc. and the newer Private schools? The trust run schools are inexpensive than the private schools.

2. "Private schools have been preferred[citation needed] by a majority of city residents because of better facilities and the use of English language as the medium of instruction."

That is wrong. The private schools do not necessarily have English as the medium of instruction. The preference is also because of the economical class. The publich schools get students from lower class while lower middle, middle class would prefer a trust run school.

3. The section of Engineering Education can be deleted completely. If this section then why not sections with other disciplines? Also, there is enough information about engineering education in the higher education section. --Kaveri 20:54, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

again, go ahead, edit it, there are many who will re edit/undo it if they feel it is not true/proper/incomplete spacejuncky 06:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Sports Section

Hi,

   My name is amit, and i teach skating in various parts of the city. 
   I wanted to upload Info about skating as pune skaters dominate at the international 
   and national level consistently.. 
   
   I will be needing help on how to go about uploading the info.. 

   Thanks in advance
   Amit G

Recent Developments in Pune

In last two years, pace of changes in Pune is beyound imagination.

It would be appropriate to add important things alrady happened and scheduled to happen in near future.

This is mainly industrial, commercial and educational developments in Pune and its surroundings.

I think, these additions needed urgently.

Thanks, Shrichand Nahar

Summer temperatures

"from 30 to 38 °C (95 to 107.6 °F)" -- which is it? 30-38C = 86-100F, or 35-42C = 95-107.6F —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.160.180 (talk) 14:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

history

The subsection 2.4 "Educational and research hub" seems very out of place in History. Surely this would be better in the section on education?

Also, the subsection 2.3 header is rather long and cumbersome for a subsection header; why not move the last paragraph of subsection 2.2 into 2.3 and retitle it something like "Conflict with the British"? Winterbadger 18:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Map of India

The map shown on the page is wrong. It shows part of "Jammu & Kashmir" as Pak Occupied Kashmir. The Official map of India is not the one displayed on this page.

Pyu.agrawal 14:16, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Wrong page to post. The map is rendered as a part of a central template and not within this article. Try posting here -Mayuresh 16:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Biodiversity

Once again I would like to state that biodiversity section should be removed from this page, no other city page on wikipedia has such a section and it does not fit here. I plan to remove it soon, please comment if it should stay. Salil.gokhale (talk) 17:46, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Seconded. The subsection contains no really important material. The city itself does not have anything spectacular to say as of now that I can think of. Go ahead, but salvage the facts or useful material in the section, before deleting.

Oh yes, please also add detailed referencing. Its a shame to see important (at least to us anyway) articles go unreferenced. AshLin (talk) 05:34, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Trivial Information in Geography Section

It seems that Geography section is not a correct place for following text:

Outside Pune's General Post Office (GPO), next to a large banyan tree in front lies Pune's "Zero" Milestone. The GPO itself (constructed 1873-74) is a two-storied building -- Pune's only building in the Palladian architectural style.

Should it be moved to some other place or removed entirely from the article? --64.236.245.243 (talk) 16:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I have removed those lines for the time being. 64.236.245.243 (talk) 17:34, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

For Nature Outings and Photography

In my opinion, this section which reads

Kavdi / Kavadi, It is 20 km away from pune on the Pune - Solapur highway. Just after the toll naka on the highway about 50m ahead you get a board Kavdipat(on ur left) you need to take a left at the board and go in there for about 5 mins where you come across the banks of the river ,where birds can be sighted.

seems inappropriate in an encyclopedia article. It may deserve a spot in Wikitravel, but we should remove it from the current article. However, the final decision may be taken after a general conscience. Please discuss the topic over hear before reintroducing this section. 64.236.245.243 (talk) 20:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Why do we have three photographs of Infosys?

They are doubtless impressive but Pune is hardly known for Infosys. I'm removing the one above the map since it serves no useful purpose.

Mukul —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mukul2u (talk • contribs) 16:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

What I'm Doing

Hi everybody,

Just to explain what I'm trying to do with this article, how I will be working on it; please feel free to chime in, either here or on the article itself:

1. Clean up the article as far as possible without deleting anything. We'll end up with a huge, but hopefully well-written, article.
2. Move the really big sections into their own pages. History of Pune is definitely coming; we already have lists of colleges and universities in Pune, so moving content there should help shrink this article down to a more reasonable size.
3. Once the big sections have been compressed, we'll do a cleanup of the whole article again, improve the writing quality and encyclopaedic language.
4. Through all this, and especially after step 3, the quality of this article will have to be maintained. Many contributors aren't familiar with Wiki syntax and conventions. Their contributions will have to be edited to maintain a consistent tone. Additions to sections with spin-off articles (e.g. List of colleges in Pune) might be moved to the spin-off article rather than cluttering up the Pune article.
5. Of course, many of these contributions will extremely valuable, particularly those with citations and references. We will also have to build up references (Mumbai has 71, while Pune only has 19!), assemble other interesting information, find good photographs for this article.
6. Polish, polish, polish, all the way to featured article!

Well, of course, that's my plan for now. Plans can and do change, and I'm sure you guys will have fantastic suggestions to help us along. If there's a major problem with the above, please let me know. Otherwise, join in! I for one think this article could be much, much, much better than it is right now.

Suggested by Gaurav (talk) 18:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Capital of Maratha Kingdom?

"gained prominence as the capital of the Maratha kingdom under the Peshwa rule. It was during this period that the city expanded considerably"

It was never a capital of Maratha Kingdom. It was the seat of the Peshva, the PrimeMinister of the Maratha kingdom. It was the center of power of the Maratha Kingdom as the Peshva ruled in the name of Shahu and was the most powerful person in his cabinet. The quoted sentence makes you feel as if it was a capital and the Peshwa's were the rulers while technically they weren't. I wasn't sure how to edit the sentence though. Can somebody take care of this based on the information I gave? --Kaveri 20:54, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Kaveri, If you have enough proof of what you claim, you can go ahead and edit history section. Don't forget to mention proof in reference section. cheers spacejuncky 06:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi guys, this was an interesting poin and I would like to suggest something. It could be mentioned "Pune acted as a capital & center of Power of the Maratha Empire as the defacto ruler Peshwa ruled were seated in the city. This made Pune a vitual capital of India during the period as Maratha Empire was controlling territory of over 250 million acres (1 million km²) or one-third of the Indian sub-continent -- Mayuresh Bhagwat (talk) 12:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. I think the current text covers Pune's significance under the Maratha Empire and Confederancy quite adequately. If anything, I'd love to see another paragraph in the History section about Pune's history after independence. -- Gaurav (talk) 17:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

References

What has happened to this page?!

I visited this page after a long hiatus and was appalled at the quality of language and the blatant violation of the NPOV, especially in the History section. I appeal to all would-be editors to keep their local/national pride aside for a moment and check out some articles on other cities to comprehend the nature and purpose of articles in an encyclopedia.

Mukul2u

Shivaji Raje’s Contribution to Pune

Someone has removed a sentence mentioning Shivaji Maharaj spend his early years in this city, if you are not sure just ask any expert or authorised person about this why to remove the sentence? also why some one is keeping peshwa related information intact and removing Shivaji Maharaj related information from the page? this is not good.

regards, Vaibhav Deshpande —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaibhavforjoy (talk • contribs) 06:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't see this message before writing on your wall! I removed the line about Shivaji, while leaving the line about the Peshwe. My understanding is that while Shivaji spent his early years in the city, this did not have much influence on the development of the city (I would argue that Dadoji Kondev and Shahaji had a much bigger part in Pune's medieval history). However, Pune rose from being a small town to a large, extremely important town because of the influence of the Peshwe, first as patrons of the town, and then - after they assumed effective control of the Maratha empire - as the capital of the entire empire. Without Shivaji spending his childhood there, Pune wouldn't have changed much one way or another (except as a side-effect of his founding the Maratha empire). Without Peshwa patronage, however, Pune would likely have remained a small, backwater town. For this reason, I think it's important to mention the Peshwa history in the introductory paragraphs, but not so important to mention Shivaji's relatively small and inconsequential stay in the city.

Of course, Shivaji's stay is an interesting brush with history for the town - who would have suspected what that little boy would become? - and definitely deserves to be in the History section, where it is, along with the anecdote of Jijabai naming the Kasba Ganapati and Dadoji Kondev's development of the town. However, I don't think it's significant enough to be in the introductory paragraphs - along the example of articles like New York City and Mumbai, I feel that the city's history should be limited in the introductory paragraph, in favour of more information on the city's present; I would be against having even the mention of the Peshwa, except that I believe (as mentioned above) that the Peshwe were crucial to Pune's development from a small town to a significant city, as were the British and the recent industrialization - which is why they are mentioned in the same paragraph as well.

Let's not get into an edit war over this; in that spirit, I'm not going to revert Vaibhav's edit. Vaibhav: please argue your point of view, and - if you convince me - I'll merge your edits into the article and ensure they stay in the article myself. Until such a conversion, however, I'll stick with my point of view, which is that mentioning Shivaji in the introductory paragraph is a bad idea. -- Gaurav (talk) 08:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Gaurav,

Please find answer of ur question in below points.

1] In 1637, Shivaji Raje got ownership (sardeshmukhi) of Pune. After receiving guidance from Dadoji Konddev and Mother Jijabai he can be credited for construction big dam near Kondhana and Dam on 'Ambil' river which passes between city. He,with the help of Dadoji tried to bring more land for under cultivation. As a result population of Pune rose 2-3 times in 1658,comparing to 1636.This is due to wave of migration from surrounding areas to Pune, as the city had better administration, Law & order and growth prospects.

According to Shivaji, he was born in 1630. Did he really get ownership at the age of seven? If you have a reference for this, brilliant - we'll be able to improve both Pune and Shivaji!

2] Pune surrounding had 36 villages at that time like Aundh, Parvati, Kothrud etc. Shivaji Maharaj can be credited for streamlining of the revenue of villages to Pune. He made Pune as capital Pune Pargana as mentioned in historic documents, this was not done by earlier administrators of Pune like Rango Dhadphale or Murar Jogdev. In 1657, When Maharaj attacked Junnar and Ahmednagar his army base was Pune at that time.

3] In 1670,he developed 14 peths for trade activities ( peths was already existed but a setup of trade activities had been developed) around Pune,each Peth was having one name representing a day of week like Somawar,Mangalwar peth etc. Means Monday was "market day" for Somawr peth traders, Thursday for Guruwar Peth traders so on this activity was first started during Shivaji Raje's period.

I didn't know that! You should add this to Peths in Pune; it'd be great to have more information about life in central Pune all those hundreds of years ago.

4] No of Peths developed during Shivaji Raje’s period : 14 and No of Peths developed during Peshwa’s period : 4

We've only got four peths listed on Peths in Pune built during Shivaji's rule. Do you have a list of the other ten? Could you please add them there?

5] During Peshwa's period, mainly Sadashiv,Narayan peths had been developed to accommodate clerks and Priest came to Pune from Konkan area. Other two peths developed during peshwa period are Nana and Rasta peths , those had some trade activities but note that large scale trade activities had been started in city long back in 1670,it is not like that only during peshwa rule, Pune witnessed growth or trade activities.

6] During 1818 to 1970, large scale migration of traders from central area of city to Rasta,Nana Peth happened, some people who came to Pune after 1947 or after 1955, have misinterpreted this as, only Rasta and Nana peths in Pune have trade activities since historic time not the central areas of city, since it was known that these two peths had developed during Peshwa period, they gave importance to peshwa period than Shivaji Raje’s period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vaibhavforjoy (talk • contribs) 08:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Other than to point out that you ought to sign your post (just put four tildes - ~~~~ - at the end of your post; when you save your page, it'll be replaced with your username and the time of posting), congratulations! I hope you add this information - preferably with citations? - to the article. You might also want to start a new article - History of Pune? - and put your information there, so as not to clutter up the Pune article. Properly cited, this information will be an incredibly valuable addition the all the articles on Pune's history! -- Gaurav (talk) 17:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

lock the page?

hi folks,

can we please request the pune page to be protected i.e. only registered users can make edits?

it is very hard to come back to this page every 2 months and track down which version had some section that was deleted by some vandal, and then buried by someone who added something but did not revert the vandalism.

i am saying this because IP address 59.95.52.179 deleted the entire transport section and i had to go back >50 versions to find the missing material.

thanks --ti 16:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi ti. I think locking the page is really a measure of last resort on Wikipedia, the editing of pages being the site's biggest USP. Popular pages like Pune will attract lots of helpful people who fix a spelling or add a helpful sentence, and plenty of others who will add their own photos (dimly lit people dancing under bright lights - encyclopaedic?), their own colleges, and - what really gets my goat - redundant information which is already mentioned elsewhere on the page. The "Wikipedia" solution would be to have people watching the page; I try, but when too many semi-sensible edits I don't approve of pile up, I usually sit back for a while and let the vox populi figure it out, before swooping in to clean up entire sections at a go.

As an aside, I did notice the transport section vanishing, but as I tacitly approved - I think this article has grown far too big for its own good - I left it alone. As an inclusionist, though, I'm pretty ambivalent to whether the section is in or not, as long as it's well written, so I'm not going to revert your reinsert or anything. Besides, your moving the peths out of the main article has really given us a lot of space to work with, and improved the flow of the article in general: the transport sections "fits" much better now than it did earlier.

I'm also hoping that the better the article gets, the fewer semi-nonsense edits will occur on it. Right now, many sections are bad enough that people feel adding a word or a line is an improvement, and I'm not going to disagree with them. Once the entire article and all sections are well-written, nicely laid out and self-consistant, it's going to be harder to make an edit which improves the article, making it easier for us, the Watchers, to distinguish between a well-meaning but badly written edit (I'm a big believer in WP:FAITH) and outright vandalism.

So, in summary: we need more people to watch and work on this article, I don't think locking the page is the answer, and I'm really glad somebody else is watching the page as well. =)

Gaurav (talk) 05:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Gaurav, i agree with your insight. as long as a few of us are watching the (or for that many article), one of us will take note when a whole section goes missing again! :-) --ti 15:32, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

put economy, climate first ,then history..

god knows who is deleteing this constrcutive changes everyday? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.215.11 (talk) 07:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi 203.99.215.11,

First off, welcome to Wikipedia! It'll be a lot easier for us to discuss changes to this and other pages you work on if you create an account - you just need an e-mail address and a password. Having a presence in the community will help distinguish your changes from anonymous editors, who usually make small changes rather than large-scale reorganizations like you are doing, and will let the other editors on Pune work together to resolve our differences, and make this - and all other Wikipedia articles - are great as possible.

Putting the history of the city first has a long precedent on Wikipedia, as reflected in articles on Mumbai, London, New York City, Kolkatta and Moscow. I feel that it introduces people to the past before diving into the present of the city. The current "History" section does, I think, a good job in summarising the history of the city and would give people an idea about where Pune is situated - within the history of Maharashtra and India - before reading about where Pune is situated economically and geographically, for instance.

Also, in my opinion, the "Economy" section is grossly oversized, and trimming it back would help. As it stands, it's almost entirely a list of company names. This encourages individual editors to add their own companies to the list (something which hasn't happened since I cleaned up that section, praise the heavens), and fails to give any real information to people who do not know about these companies. If somebody were to wipe out the Economy section, and replace it with a few paragraphs - with citations! - about the sectors currently prominent in Pune, with a few companies as illustration, economic sectors which are coming to the fore, and those which are being encouraged - whether successfully or otherwise - by the local and state governments, I wouldn't be at all displeased.

I'm not a big fan of the climate section, either, but I guess that it - along with geographical information - are essential to explaining the place.

In short: welcome to Wikipedia, and I hope you stay; I think the previous order is the better one, but if you've got good arguments why it isn't, I'll be glad to hear it; and I wish somebody would rewrite the economy section - but only if they have real, meaningful, cited information to contribute.

cheers, Gaurav (talk) 09:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

hi 203.99.215.11, the Pune article is being structured with guidelines from wp:WikiProject Indian cities, see the top of this talk page. maybe you should take your point there. --ti 17:29, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Economy - cleanup of software companies

I agree that the list was too long, but I would hardly call some of these companies "minor software companies". Amdocs, BMC Software, IBM, Dell, Symantec, and Oracle have all been removed from the list, yet they are some of the biggest software companies in the world. All that has been left in are three big Indian companies. Surely it is important to show that big multinationals are also situated in Pune. Cymruisrael (talk) 10:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. Do you have any ideas on how we can draw up a list of relevant companies? Once we have consensus on a handful of companies (say, five Indian and five multinationals) representing the software companies with a presence in Pune, we can stick to that and revert any further additions to that list. I'd love it if we could set some criteria, and enforce that instead - I was trying for "companies which have pages on Wikipedia", but large companies like KPIT Cummins don't have pages, which I can imagine smaller companies have Wikipedia pages and end up on this list instead. Perhaps if many of these companies are in the same area, we could use that to organize them; for instance:

• IT Park X: Infosys, IBM, etc.
• Central Pune: Dell, Symantec, etc.
• And so on

which might also encourage passers-by to be a bit more selective about companies to add to this list. Maybe.

We could also make a separate list page (analagous to List of colleges in Pune), but I expect that's going to be even harder to maintain.

I'd love to hear any better ideas flying around. None of the other pages I usually check on have done anything like this; neither Mumbai nor New York City have a list of companies in their economy section. Still, if we can figure out a way of doing it right here, we could "export" it to other articles!

Thoughts, anybody? -- Gaurav (talk) 11:13, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Companies in the Economy section

To prevent excessive company listings in the Economy section, I propose that we maintain a list of exactly which companies must be listed, and the reasons for listing these companies. That way, any new listing of a company can be referred to this page. It will help remove unimportant companies (I've never heard of "ITW", which is on the page at the moment), provide consensus on which companies are important enough to be worthy of a mention, and give me something to link to when reverting somebody adding yet another company name to the Economy section.

To summarize: I propose that nobody add new names to the company list until such additions have been properly discussed on this talk page.

(If you disagree that the Economy section needs policing - and are not convinced by the state of the Economy section before the current cleanup - please discuss this in another part of this talk page, thanks! If there's consensus that this is a stupid idea, I'll wipe this section out myself.)

I propose that no company should be included in more than one list, and that no list should have more than four companies on it. That way, we'll give more companies "exposure" through this website, and avoid the long lists of company names which used to exist on this page earlier.

The economy section currently lists the following companies:

• Prominent domestic autorickshaw and two-wheeler manufacturers with major plants in Pune:
  • Bajaj Auto
  • Kinetic Motor Company

• Prominent domestic car, tempo and truck manufacturers with plants in Pune.
  • Tata Motors - Major national car manufacturer
  • Force Motors - tempo and truck manufacturer
  • Fiat - to set up greenfield facilities near Pune

• Prominent international car, tempo and truck manufacturers with plants in Pune.
  • Daimler-Chrysler
  • General Motors - to set up greenfield facilities near Pune
  • Volkswagen - to set up greenfield facilities near Pune

• Automobile component manufacturers (?):
  • TATA Autocomp Systems Limited TACO
  • Visteon
  • Continental Corporation
  • ITW

• General manufacturing (should reduce to four):
  • Bharat Forge - major national forge manufacturer
  • Cummins - major national engine manufacturer
  • Alfa Laval - Other major manufacturers
  • Thyssen Krupp - Other major manufacturers
  • Black & Veatch - Other major manufacturers

• Major international electronics manufacturers with large plants in Pune:
  • Whirlpool Corporation
  • LG Group

• Multinational corporations in the food industry with food processing plants in Pune:
  • Frito Lay
  • Coca Cola

• Significant software manufacturing/out-sourcing companies with large offices in Pune:
  • Tata Consultancy Services
  • Tech Mahindra
  • Wipro
  • Infosys

• Significant in the Indian business process outsourcing industry, with large offices in Pune:
  • Convergys
  • Infosys BPO
  • EXL
  • Wipro BPO

• The following companies are significant players (?) in (?) and are going to set up operations in Pune:
  • vCustomer
  • Ventura
  • Mphasis

• Major international companies with significant departments in Pune:
  • HSBC - Their Global Technology Center has been set up in Pune.

• The following IT parks are large, recent constructions which highlight the developing software industry in Pune (we should really reduce this to four!):
  • Rajiv Gandhi IT Park at Hinjawadi
  • Magarpatta Cybercity
  • MIDC Software Technology Park at Talawade
  • Marisoft IT Park
  • Kumar Cerebrum IT Park at Kalyani Nagar
  • International Convention Centre (ICC)
  • Weikfield IT Park

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Article is too long

Article is already 58 kilobytes long, making it difficult to read. I suggest that History and Transport should be split into subpages. There is already a seperate page for Education in Pune, I think information is being repeated there. Anish7 (talk) 21:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Thoroughly agree. IMHO, the article is reasonably tight until the "Transport" section; sections below that point need to be drastically shortened. History of Pune is already a subpage, and transport can probably become one as well. I'd love to see "Economy" split off as well - it just ends up becoming a long list of everybody's favourite companies, and a separate page would allow it to become large enough to be interesting in its own right. -- Gaurav (talk) 05:44, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Chatuhshrungi

Chatuhshrungi (चतु:श्रुंगी) is the correct spelling and pronunciation . Please correct it. Contributions/71.58.105.61 (talk) 08:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)Aditya k.

Add Pune in the Template Metropolitan cities of India

Need to add Pune in the Template Metropolitan cities of India. The populations of all 2 Municipal corporations namely Pune municipal corporation, Pimpri Chinchwad Municipal corporation and all 3 cantonments need to be added to cross the 4 lac benchmark to qualify it as a Metro. I see Hyderabad being included in that list but not Pune. Need to follow up and continiously add name of Pune in the Template : Metropolitan cities of India. also only 2 cities namely Pune and Mumbai need to be included in the template Template : Metropolitan cities of Maharastra. Do add in the Template : Metropolitan cities of India, the entry of Pune, by editing it and adding along with Mumbai, Kolcatta, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bangalore and Delhi. Only adding it will percolatate the thought that the combined population of PMC and PCMC does cross the 40 lac bench mark to qualify it as a metro on that template. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BostonPunekar (talk • contribs) 01:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

About Next Pune Wikimeetup

We would like to have next Wiki Meetup in Pune soon ,so please leave your comments at Wikipedia:Meetup/Pune2

Mahitgar (talk) 10:17, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Do we really need to have the two bus photos in the transport section?

I see no value in having the two bus photographs and stating information such as it is a Shivneri Volvo bus. Should we delete them?Adange (talk) 06:06, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Diaspora section unnecessary

"Many Pune residents temporarily living all over the world, from Mumbai, Bangalore and Hyderabad to U.S., U.K., Canada, Australia, Singapore and so on. These people are Working (or studying). " The language is appalling, and there is nothing unique to be said in stating that people move from one city to another for work or study purposes. I have removed the section Anish7 (talk) 21:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Software Section

There are currently 40 companies listed in one single sentence as having a presence in Pune. Not every company in PUne needs to mentioned on the Pune page, and most of it appears to be shameless plugging anyways. I think this section should be spun off into a separate page, avoiding company names in Pune article if possible as I believe it would be difficult to come up with a criteria to decide what company names belong on main Pune article. As it is, most of that section is names of companies and nothing else. I'll wait a couple of days to see if anyone has a better suggestion, else I will do it myself. Anish7 (talk) 22:16, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I guess a new wiki for software industry in Pune is a good idea. -- Nachiket 02:28, 23 October 2009 (UTC)(talk)

Missing information/additional content

Floods of 1961 ....MISSING?

Hi, Can anyone update the catastrophy of the 1961 flood due to the Panshet Dam collapse? -- Mayuresh Bhagwat (talk) 13:24, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

It should definitely be added to History of Pune. I don't know if it was significant enough to be added to the history section on this page, but as I pointed out above, the history section does not touch on Pune's history from 1947-2008 at all! -- Gaurav (talk) 17:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Pune Festival

How about the mention of Pune Festival in the Ganesh Festival column? -- Mayuresh Bhagwat (talk) 15:17, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

There was a mention of this festival, but I removed it as I felt the "Culture: Religion" section was becoming too big. If you think it's significant enough to be mentioned here (and not, say, in Maharashtra instead, for instance), please go ahead and write a few lines on the subject. -- Gaurav (talk) 17:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Raja Bahadur Motilal Poona Mills Ltd.

The text added by Pebble123 to the History section was also added as two new articles, The Pittie family in Pune and Raja Bahadur Motilal Poona Mills Ltd.. Another editor marked the Pittie family article for speedy deletion which was removed by the original author, which sparked a discussion about the notability of the family, i.e. does the subject warrant two new articles? Anyway, those two articles could use the attention of the editors working on Pune, as you're likely much more familiar with the subject. The discussion is happening on the Pittie family talk page. Thanks for your help! Ivanvector (talk) 20:14, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Literature & Theatre to be merged into Culture???

I think we have just included food and food processing in the culture section. Literature and theatre also form a part of a place's culture. I think both the sections should be merged.chinmay26r (talk) 10:29, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Featured Article status

It is surprising that the article on Pune has not yet become a featured article(FA) or good article(GA). Volunteers (especially localites) must take some efforts to clean up the artcile so that it achieves GA status & then FA status.. --Crazysoul (talk) 10:50, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

yes, all big cities in India have reached FA status....Nirvanareborn(TeenSpirit) 17:37, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Detroit of India

In my opinion, the "Detroit of India" title, which is at best debatable (at least two independant sources [2], [3] give the title to Chennai) should not be placed at the top of the infobox.

SPat ^talk 19:02, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

These titles are more like opinions, but even then, if there's some reliable source that calls Pune the Detroit of India (given the state of Detroit, I'm not sure that's altogether a good thing), then it should be included in prose form (which is how it is in te Madras article - although it needs to be moved out from the lede there). Unless it's something like Big Apple etc, it shouldn't be in the infobox. —SpacemanSpiff 19:12, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

IPL Pune

Apparently, Pune now has an IPL cricket team (See here). Not much of a cricket fan myself, but perhaps someone cares enough about it to put it into the article? --MK 12:19, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

About Pune

Pune is well known city in the world. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.240.105.42 (talk) 06:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Toponymy

I am a bit confused why there is information about Dakshina system in Toponymy. I was going to delete the text but wasn't sure. Is it some kind of explanation for the the name 'oxford of the east'? This is the text right now " The pioneer of the "Dakshina" system in 1720 was Sarsenapati Khanderao Dabhade Ist of Talegaon Dabhade. It was after him and his son Sarsenapati Trimbakrao Dabhade Ist, that the system of Dakshina was transferred to Pune by the Peshwa. After the fall of the Marathas in 1818 and establishment of educational institutions by the Britishers, Pune came to be referred to as the "Student Capital of India" and "Oxford of the East" due to its large student population, and large number of quality, academic and research institutes.[citation "

I propose we reduce it to the following sentence: Pune is also referred to as the "Student Capital of India" and "Oxford of the East" due to its large student population, and large number of quality, academic and research institutes. I will make this change after a couple of days if nobody objects. Kaveri (talk) 19:23, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Neighbourhoods

Can somebody please explain the logic of dividing the neighbourhoods. In the westside and eastside it talks about east, west, northeast, northwest. so I am assuming it is not really about directions. What is it about then? Also I have no clue what inner and outer means. I propose we divide it chronologically, something like old city, additions after Independence and newest additions or something to that effect. The existing categories will fit these categories almost perfectly with some neighbourhoods that would need to be moved to the newest additions category. Kaveri (talk) 21:32, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

magarpatta city

there is no mention of magarpatta city. I think magarpatta city deserves a section. --Onef9day ^Talk! 11:13, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Invitation to Second Pune Wikipedia Meetup

Wikipedia–Wikimedia Meetup
Pune, India

Meetup - 26
विकिपीडिया विकिभेट,
पुणे-24:उद्घोषित
time tbd
Saturday, 11 January 2020 (tbf)

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Tourist attractions

I have removed both the tourist attractions sections. According to WP:NOTTRAVEL, "Notable locations may meet the inclusion criteria, but the resulting articles need not include every tourist attraction, restaurant, hotel or venue, etc. Such details may be welcome at Wikitravel, or Wikia travel instead." Further, as precedent, none of the FA-class WP:INCITIES articles have a tourist attractions section.

SPat ^talk 14:11, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Keep up the good work! AshLin (talk) 14:31, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Population density data

The population density figures quoted in the righthand sidebar "Pune - Metropolitan City" do not correspond with the population and area figures given there - they are more than twice what the divisions produce:

The figures quoted in the article are:

population	area(km2)	area(mi2)	density(/km2)	density(/mi2)
3,446,330	1109.69	428	7,214	18,684

The table with density figures calculated from the given population and area figures would be:

population	area(km2)	area(mi2)	density(/km2)	density(/mi2)
3,446,330	1109.69	428	3,106	8,052

The issue is not resolved by substituting the alternative figure for population ("metro" 5,518,688).

In the article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_largest_municipalities_by_population, the following comparative figures are given:

population	area(km2)	area(mi2)	density(/km2)	density(/mi2)
3,157,000	430		7,342

I suspect, therefore, that the root of the problem is that the article quotes the area figure 428 as square miles which ought to be the number of square kilometres. If this change is made and a new figure for the area in square miles is calculated from this, the following table results:

population	area(km2)	area(mi2)	density(/km2)	density(/mi2)
3,446,330	428	165.25	8,052	20,855

These density figures are close to those given both in this article and in the other articvle cited above, but still off by a good percentage.

The figures need to be checked from an independent source. Hedles (talk) 17:36, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Meetup/Pune announced

Wikipedia–Wikimedia Meetup
Pune, India

Meetup - 26
विकिपीडिया विकिभेट,
पुणे-24:उद्घोषित
time tbd
Saturday, 11 January 2020 (tbf)

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Notable Personalities from Pune

I have begun this by adding three, please add more. GreenEdu (talk) 14:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Photo Montage

The captions of the lead photo (photo montage) is incorrect. I think the first pic is of Council Hall while Fergusson College is not in it. Can someone rectify?

Also, the picture of MG Road is not clear. Just one building on MG Road does not represent the street. Better to have an entire picture of Shaniwarwada. SoFullofHell 14:13, 20 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbohra (talk • contribs)

Also, for my money's worth, I'm not entirely sure why the HSBC building deserves to be in that montage. Dexterous1802 (talk) 04:05, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

13th Meetup of Wikipedians in Pune, Maharashtra - please note details and register.

A reminder for the 13th Meetup of Wikipedians in Pune, Maharashtra. Please see the meetup page for details and indicate your attendance. The intended purpose of the meetup is:

to discuss the Campus Ambassador Program and forthcoming WikiConference 2011.

Highlights - Hisham Mundol, National Director, India Program & Bishakha Datta, Global Trustee, Wikimedia Foundation will be present for the meetup.

One of our agenda points is bringing Pune upto Good Article status as a first step, so please do attend - its an important meetup and your voice and opinion is needed very much. AshLin (talk) 04:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

When did Poona become Pune?

When was the name changed? I found a newspaper clipping from 1979 which already says "Pune (formerly Poona)", so it must have been earlier than that. Can anyone find a precise date?   Will Beback  talk  20:10, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I also found a clipping from October 1977 that is datelined "Pune, India".   Will Beback  talk  21:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

According to Nationalencyclopedin (Pune and Poona) the change was made in 1976. (However, I imagine you can easily find the name Pune used earlier. It's simply the Marathi name.)

Accusativen hos Olsson (talk) 17:38, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for finding that. Could you add a sentence to the history section [or toponym section] on the name change with that source as the reference?   Will Beback  talk  21:23, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Done (Toponymy section)! However, a better reference would be a desideratum.

Accusativen hos Olsson (talk) 12:01, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. Mystery solved.   Will Beback  talk  12:12, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Climate – concordance between text and table

The text says, "The lowest temperature ever recorded was 1.7 °C on January 17, 1935", but the climate/weather table gives the record low temperature as being 5°C in December. Can anyone ascertain which is actually correct? Ondewelle (talk) 10:24, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Pune has done pioneering work in Women education

Mahatma Jyotiba Phule and Savitribai Phule have been pioneer in women's education. Later on Maharshi Dhondo Keshav Karve started Hingne Stree Shikshan Sanstha for educating girls. S.N.D.T. University has been imparting college education to girls since 1916 through the college founded by Maharshi Karve. 220.227.168.116 (talk) 10:13, 17 August 2011 (UTC) Shubha Gokhale

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This is the English language Wiki

So why is the text in the infobox listed as "Location of पुणे"?

It's not "पुणे" it's "Pune", so that needs to be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.111.138 (talk) 16:03, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Translation into Chinese Wikipedia

The 09:23, 25 May 2012‎ Luk version of this article is translated into Chinese Wikipedia to expand a stub.--Wing (talk) 10:20, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Talukas - tehsils - in Pune

I deleted the following two lines from the infobox because it was misleading.

| parts_type = Talukas

| parts = Haveli taluka

Please, if you are going to think about restoring a list of talukas in Pune to the infobox, think comprehensively about all of them, and discuss it here. Anyway, I think that instead of that, the existing section of "Neighbourhoods" with redirection to Neighborhoods of Pune is sufficient and does not clutter the infobox. --Bejnar (talk) 21:14, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Clarification in History Section

Article says "Copper plates dated 858 AD and 868 AD show that, by the 8th century," isn't year 858 in 9th Century ? 64.189.154.124 (talk) 11:11, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Malls, multiplexes & hotels

According to WP:NOTTRAVEL, these don't belong here. Any opinions on whether these sections should be removed ? Anish7 (talk) 06:21, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Removed after waiting many months for comments. Anish7 (talk) 02:05, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Photographs of roads inside the city

I think we almost don't have photographs of interior main roads and bridges of Pune city. Photographs of roads give the first impression about the city.I think it would be better to add photographs (when traffic is less) of roads like Univeristy road, Senapati Bapat road, Roads in Band garden area and so on. What you guys think about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.38.29.121 (talk) 13:55, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

shirgaon as priti Shirdi Sai Baba

Shirgaon is situated in Maval, one of the Muslim Sarpanch Usman Dagadu Shaikh elected last 20 years unupose in the Shirgaon and develop the village shirgaon, which is situated old Pune Mumbai highway he is donated his own 2 acre land to construct a Sai Mandir now the same is popular as Priti Saibaba, the land is register in the Charity Commissioner office Mr Usman Dagadu Shaikh is founder and custodian till death after that his family member will be the custodian of the tample.The best example of national intigration of Hindu Muslim Unity in the village — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.109.96.116 (talk) 00:06, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Rango Bapuji Dhadphale

Can somebody add reliable references to the appointment of Rango Bapuji Dhadphale as Shahaji's administrator of Pune ? I could only find reference to that name under Dhadphale yadi [4] and this was Rango Bapuji Dhadphale who lived in 1850s, a full 225 years after Shahaji's "administrator" Jonathansammy (talk) 17:59, 19 December 2014 (UTC) !!

Notable people

I believe this section needs serious revision. The section should be divided into people who were born here and people who made their contribution to public life whilst being resident of the city. For example, Ajay Banga was born here but was brought up in different cities and made his career in USA. Anu Aga made her career elsewhere but is resdent of the city now. Historical personalities like Jyotiba Phule and Tilak were born elsewhere but spent most of their life in the city and was their base. These distinctions need to be made for the section to be meaningful.Jonathansammy (talk) 22:34, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2016

Simple edit. Please replace " The patronage of the Maratha Peshwas resulted great expansion of Pune " with " The patronage of the Maratha Peshwas caused great expansion of Pune " Heydemann (talk) 19:07, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Changed to "resulted in".  — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 19:43, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

About the climate.

In those days there were no machines to know the climate updates. Chittaarth mehta (talk) 16:36, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Hospitals in Pune

National Institute of Naturopathy (Govt. Of India, Ministry of AYUSH) Treatment is done based upon Natural Therapies http://punenin.org/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shsingh (talk • contribs) 16:35, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Film and Television Institute of India - where to include?

The main article includes the following note:

Please don't add to the list of colleges mentioned in this section. We cannot mention every college in Pune here.

However it appears strange not to mention the Film and Television Institute of India (FTII) as one of the most established film schools in the entire country, and a full member institution of the international CILECT film school network - of which there are only three members in the whole of India. As the Wikipedia entry states, it is an autonomous institute under the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting of the Government of India and aided by the Central Government of India, so no question about its notability or importance.

However it is entirely absent from this article or indeed the Education in Pune sub article.

Any suggestions where a brief sentence could appear?

Mowerbyte (talk) 16:55, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Direct youtube link

Why is there a direct youtube link the first paragraph? Video files are supposed to be embedded in wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AbhijithPA (talk • contribs) 03:06, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Personal transport

"Previously, Pune was known as cycle city of India. However, in the recent decades, motorized two wheelers have started replacing the cycle as a popular mode of transport."

This info is at least two decades old. Can someone please add more info about the current traffic situation? Shall we remove this bit altogether? Berlindian (talk) 22:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't live in Pune but visit it now and then.Every time I go there,I notice that the traffic situation has got worse with more and more vehicles on the road and fumes making breathing difficult.The historical context about bicycles should remain.In the absence of inadequate public transport, we have to have a section on personal transport.You can add sourced information about current situation regarding personal transport.If you can find a picture of riders on scooters or motorbikes with their faces covered then that would give additional support for the current situation.Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 15:18, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Jonathansammy, I agree about the section and also understand the dire need of public transport. Thank you for the new information and references. However, the numbers were off. The 2016 report estimated the number of two wheeler *users* at 3.5 million and not two wheelers themselves (for which they haven't cited any references). According to reports published this month, the number of two wheelers stands at 2.7 million and that of all vehicles stands at 3.62 million. That you don't live in Pune was clear to me when you edited the metro section without references, but no issues :D Thanks. Berlindian (talk) 17:04, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Copy edit

Greetings fellow editors. I am here from GOCE to copy edit this rather fine looking article. If I do anything you don't like, or don't understand, feel free to flag it up here. I note after a skim that the article is long - over 8,000 words. That is longer than the article on Delhi, nearly twice the size of the New Delhi article and nearly as long as the Mumbai one. So I expect that I shall be looking to reduce its size where I think that I can. Again, if I get that wrong, do let me know. Regards. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:49, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

‘Mercer 2017 Quality of Living Rankings’ in the lead

This is an assessment done by a private company and is based on a comparison of cities to New York City. The Mercer Quality of Living Survey article itself has been tagged for several issues. Moreover most other articles about prominent cities do not mention Mercer. That makes me wonder if it is really valuable information. I suggest that this information be removed or moved to a separate section. Same goes with the assesment of the city by Janaagraha which is a Bangalore based NGO. Berlindian (talk) 01:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Information moved to the Urban structure section. Berlindian (talk) 15:51, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Sports

The consensus is to remove the sports table.

Cunard (talk) 05:19, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, I think the Sports section is too long. Given that Sports in Pune is a separate article and is linked as the main article, I suggest we summarize this section in two paragraphs. Suggestions? Berlindian (talk) 15:25, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Agree.We,should,however,add information on indigenous sports such as kabbadi,kho kho,wrestling,malkhamb etc.Clubs dedicated to these sports have existed in the city for decades and are also popular in schools.Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 15:39, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

I thinned this section a little as part of the GOCE copy edit. I think that if the table "Names of various sports teams which represent Pune in sports leagues across India" is removed it approaches the sort of length we would want. I would, personally, not expand this section as Jonathansammy suggests; these sections could certainly do with further information, but Sports in Pune would seem a better place to do this. (As usual with copy edits, query or revert anything you are not happy with.) Regards. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:10, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

I checked and there's a similar table in the Sports in Pune article. I say remove the table. Berlindian (talk) 15:10, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Support removing the sports table. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:14, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

• Remove the table as it is too detailed for a general article about Pune. I would suggest keeping information about the important sporting locations/facilities or any important events.--DreamLinker (talk) 07:58, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
• Support table removal As a separate article already exists, there's no reason to belabor the subject here. (Summoned by bot) Chris Troutman (talk) 20:52, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
• Remove the table - Summoned by bot. Agree that once the table is removed, the section won't be too long. Meatsgains^(talk) 19:11, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

• Table removed. Berlindian (talk) 15:21, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

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Notable people

Another section which could be thought about is Notable people. How about we create a new list elsewhere, on the lines of List of people from Mumbai? Berlindian (talk) 14:47, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Support moving notable people to a new article. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:28, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Support moving notable people to a new List.Jonathansammy (talk) 15:57, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Information moved to List of people from Pune. Berlindian (talk) 15:17, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Pune since independence

I believe this section needs to be rewritten. At present the section does not have coherence at all.It covers some peripheral issues but not much about how Pune turned from a mid-sized city to one of the ten largest cities in India. Let me know your thoughts on the topic.Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 19:21, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Jonathansammy, I have made minor changes and would be glad if you could improve it further. However, I think additional information in this section is unwarranted. The section does cover continued growth in 'education' (establishment of the NDA, NCL and UniPune) to justify the moniker of 'Oxford of the East', beginning of industrialization (1950s) and how economic policies of the 1990s boosted it. It also lists major events in the recent past. Detailed info on economic and population growth is present in the respective sections. The urban structure, utility services and, personal transport sections also provide details about the issues associated with the city's growth. Berlindian (talk) 14:40, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Jonathansammy, I have no idea why you would repeat the information which is already present in other sections, instead of just a few summarizing sentences. I have trimmed the information, removed the list of companies which is already present in the economy section, the Panshet mishap is very well covered in Urban structure, and so is the Pune Metropolitan Region in Civic administration. Also, please avoid single sentence paragraphs WP:PARAGRAPH. I have edited the section for coherence, which was the whole point of this exercise. Para 1: establishment of PMC, UniPune, NCL and NDA. Para2 industries from the 1950s till date. Para3 1961 flood and definition of PMR. Para 4 other important chronological events. Berlindian (talk) 17:37, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I also removed possible contentious content: 'mid-sized city', even in 1901 Pune was the 13th largest city in India (minus Pakistan and Bangladesh) and 9th largest according to the 1951 census. 'Detroit of India', this is probably not the best expression given the state of Detroit today.Berlindian (talk) 17:40, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Food

@42.106.199.152, Berlindian, and Jonathansammy: A new "section" has been added on food. It is arguably appropriate to add something on food in or from Pune if there is something noteworthy, unusual, or famous outside the city. If there is such a section I am not sure how much of 42.106.199.152's contribution will remain, but it is a start. Firstly, is there consensus that a section on food is needed? Gog the Mild (talk) 10:31, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes,the city is famous for the snacks from Chitale bandhu but getting reliable neutral sources will be difficult.I will try though.

@Jonathansammy: Not the most RS, but something. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Support removal of the section (someone has already removed it.). The information does not only violate WP:NOTDIRECTORY but also WP:NPOV and WP:NOR. While Pune has a number of well-known food 'joints', it is not unusual or exceptional compared to other cities. There are hundreds of such places in the city with their own specialties and dedicated patronage, it will be impossible to list all of those. Besides, listing food 'joints' in my opinion has no encyclopedic value, it'd be more appropriate to have it on wikitravel. Finding unbiased sources is almost impossible and most reports out there are reviews and/or opinions of individuals.

As far as a section on cuisine goes, I think ample information is available on the Maharashtrian cuisine page. I do not support it but, if there's a consensus, it should go as a subsection under 'Culture'. Berlindian (talk) 13:49, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Support not mentioning food in the article at all. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:42, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Since food is a big part of culture, there should be some mention of food available in the city.I have added sourced info on the subject.I hope that is OK with all the interested parties.Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 16:22, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

We haven't reached a consensus on food yet. It will only encourage vandalism and advertisements! Berlindian (talk) 17:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Support not adding this It will bring promotions and disruptive editing, OR,POV etc. --Adamstraw99 (talk) 19:33, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Role of the education sector in the economy of the city and the Metro

Pune has been known as the education capital of India.The large student population from across India make a significant contribution to the local economy.This obviously includes the tuition fees paid for their education.The lodging and boarding of the out of town students also is part of the education economy of the city.Unfortunately,I have not been able to find reliable sources on this topic.A paper I found came with an automatic red notice saying that the journal was not trusted by Wikipedia.So any help on this matter is most welcome.Thanks.Jonathansammy (talk) 15:46, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

It would be nice to have those numbers. e.g. how many people are employed in the education sector, how much contribution does it make to the economy and so on. Given the number of colleges, these numbers must be significant. I will try to find sources when I get time.
Jonathansammy, do you write content somewhere else and paste it here? There seems to be some problem with punctuation and spacing (after punctuation) in your texts. I have fixed it in the article, but the problem can also be seen in this msg of yours. Thanks. Berlindian (talk) 22:38, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Berlindian, Double space or single space?I used to or still have problem of having double space after the full stop.When you use WORD it is easier to fix but unfortunately on Wikipedia it seems that I have not fixed the problem.Thanks for pointing out though.Jonathansammy (talk) 13:32, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

More like no space after a comma or a full stop. Maybe when you remove what appears to be a double space after punctuation, it removes all the space. Also, sometimes there are full stops before and after the reference numbers. I would suggest a quick check using the 'review your changes' button or the VisualEditor. Best, Berlindian (talk) 14:16, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

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January 2021

@Akkich001: You cannot make changes to the sourced population figures like that [5]. The data is properly sourced. if you have a query discuss here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:25, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Pune the largest city in Maharashtra?

In terms of land area?

Please provide a reputable source and feel free to add to article when you have one. GreaterPonce665 ^(TALK) 20:02, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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