Talk:Puerto Rico Medical Emergencies Corps

Puerto Rico Medical Emergencies Corps

Hi, I noticed that you have worked on Puerto Rico Medical Emergencies Corps (and many other Puerto Rico articles). Do you have thoughts on what the best English name for the group should be? The page name is currently "Puerto Rico Medical Emergencies Corps" but the bold text name was "Puerto Rico Emergency Medical Bureau." I edited that to "Puerto Rico Emergency Medical Corps Bureau" to line up with the given Spanish name, although I'd possibly prefer "Bureau of the Puerto Rico Emergency Medical Corps." Do you know if there is a preferred English version of the name? Thanks, Tdslk (talk) 03:48, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for working on this. I don't know the preferred English name. I once emailed someone who worked at an agency to ask them what the English name was because I wanted to get it right. It was Puerto Rico Office for Socioeconomic and Community Development, a very long name in Spanish, and I didn't want to translate it myself. The word order in Spanish is different. So "un gato negro" a black cat - the adjective goes after the noun in Spanish. So "Medical Emergencies" (emergencias medicas) would be the correct order. In other words, I think Puerto Rico Medical Emergencies Corps is correct. A related "corps" is referenced in this news / press release and again the word "medical" is first (in English) ... See https://www.directrelief.org/2018/07/direct-relief-to-equip-puerto-ricos-medical-reserve-corps/ --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 12:26, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your response! Good point about the word order. "Emergency medical" makes the name align with the standard occupation name "emergency medical technician" (EMT), but I see how that doesn't fit as a translation of the Spanish name. How do you feel about moving the article to "Puerto Rico Medical Emergencies Corps Bureau"? Honestly, seeing that written out makes me want to go with "Bureau of the Puerto Rico Medical Emergencies Corps," because ending the name with three straight nouns feels clunky to me. But also, are the "corps" and the "bureau" different things, and, if so, which is the article about? Tdslk (talk) 19:19, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

YW. This article's name shouldn't include "bureau". It is a "cuerpo" = "Corps" as seen in linguee.es. The Corps. website is here: http://www.cempr.pr.gov/Pages/default.aspx The name is Spanish is "Negociado del Cuerpo de Emergencias Médicas de Puerto Rico" so I'm not sure what that is in English. I am inclined to think that "Negociado del Cuerpo" is "Corps" (Bureau = Mesa and Mesa is not part of the name in Spanish so I don't see why Bureau would be added to the article's / Corps's name. Their undated manual of operations excludes the "Negociado" part of their name http://www.cempr.pr.gov/Documents/MANUAL_DE_OPERACIONES_CEMPR_-_REVISION_OCT_2012.pdf so that instead of their name being NCEMPR (with the "negociado" part) is just CEMPR (without the negociado). (I'm moving this discussion to the article's page and invite you to continue responses over there)--The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 11:50, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

(Thanks for moving the conversation.) My guess is that "bureau" was added with the intent to match the names of the comparable police bureau and firefighters bureau. I'm fine with just plain "corps," though, if that fits the translation. Regards, Tdslk (talk) 01:45, 7 January 2020 (UTC)