Talk:Promises Treatment Centers

being my first Wikipedia article, and also knowing that promises is largely known in popular culture, knowing that both Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears, Charlie Sheen, Ben Affleck and numerous others have been to this high-priced rehabilitation center I thought at least an article should be started. I apologize if it sounds like an advertisement. But I do not currently have the resources or the time to put in the necessary work to make it a full-fledged wiki article. I thought starting it would be a good idea, and that other people would be able to take it from there. It was not my intention to make it an advertisement.Tlatseg (talk) 06:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I would assume that such a drug rehabilitation facility known for its fame and notoriety, for its successes and failures would certainly be worthy of a Wikipedia article Tlatseg (talk) 07:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I have added a link to a New York Times article that is somewhat critical of promises and other high end rehabilitation treatment facilities so that the stub does not seem so one-sidedTlatseg (talk) 07:37, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I believe that such an organization, with both many proponents and opponents is certainly worthy of a Wikipedia article though I will be the first to admit, I might not have the skill, the style the ability or the experience to make it a first rate article. It does not mean that it should not be included though. If it must be deleted I would hope we would be placed in the section for articles are to be requestedTlatseg (talk) 07:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I would certainly think that places such as promises,passages and Wonderland are just as worthy of wiki articles as are Hazelden, the Betty Ford Center, daytop, Phoenix House, and numerous others that are listed on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Drug_and_alcohol_rehabilitation_centers page.it certainly would seem to have the controversy and notoriety which would be worthy of an article such an organization which seems to be more and more in the news is something I would like to know aboutTlatseg (talk) 08:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

I declined the speedy deletion request, as I don't feel that the article is blatant advertising. However, it certainly needs work. I cleaned it up a bit, but the article needs expansion and additional sourcing. faithless (^speak) 09:34, 29 December 2007 (UTC) If it is not an advertisement then why a link to their facility with a peg file in the article linking it to the facility? That is a direct violation of wikipedia policy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennethpositive (talk • contribs) 20:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Operating status

Hi @Jungleed re this edit I think the situation is whether this article is about the company (operating, as you noted) or the old Malibu center (closed). Of course the broader question is whether Promises is even notable. Star Mississippi 16:35, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Star Mississippi, Based on WSJ they filed for bankruptcy protection, which typically means they stay in business after some liabilities are cancelled. I could not find any info that they were ever closed or changed ownership and all locations other than CA are still open. The website is also still at the same URL.

There is a press release about relocation of headquarters here. I could not use it as a citation since it is a PR, but I think Wiki guidelines actually allow certain self published info to be considered reliable.

There Media page also has continued history of the company, which would mean they did not change hands.

As far as notability, I have not evaluated it deeply or searched for other news citations. Jungleed (talk) 19:04, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the WSJ link, especially. I think your edits make it clear. I was the first one to add operating status as, at the time the status of the non California ones was uncertain. I can't remember why, btu maybe the site was down or unclear. I don't want to speak for @Praxidicae, but I think your first update of are/were in operation was just a casualty of reverting this IP spam. Star Mississippi 19:51, 3 October 2022 (UTC)