Talk:Progressive Corporation/Archives/2013

Adverts removed

Adverts removed and page wikified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.168.175.253 (talk • contribs) 00:42, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Nice work! Thanks for your help. —chair lunch dinner™ (talk) 06:10, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

haha that was me. Good times MattAster (talk) 23:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Criticism

The section has been removed. Per Wikipedia's POV and weasel words policies, it will have to be rewritten ("compliants by 'many' customers" etc.). The comments regarding Progressive's claims service and rate structure will have to be backed up by solid, statistical edidence. While it is legitimate to have criticism of any company listed, it needs to be objectively backed up and not written to sound like a rant from a disgruntled customer. When it comes to living persons or active corporations, Wikipedia needs to avoid being exposed to demaging litigation. For example of this, review the edits to State Farm Insurance's response to Hurricane Katrina claims. Even though there was extensive coverage of the lawsuit filed against State Farm, it is not mentioned in the article.THD3 12:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

The comments regarding Peter Lewis' political contributions would be better suited to the Peter Lewis article. Lewis has retired as CEO at Progressive and is Chairman of the board. Progressive has no control over Lewis' political contributions. Also, the comment that many people have dropped their Progressive policies because of Lewis' contributions is anecdotal. It could just as easily be said that people have purchased Progressive policies because of Lewis. If certain individuals (like Bill O'reilly) are advising people to cancel Progressive policies because of Lewis it seems to have backfired, judging by company growth.THD3 12:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Products

I work for Progressive and added a section on usage-based insurance. We added this section because of the growing interest in the product. Where possible, we provided source links to third parties. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsenary (talk • contribs) 18:00, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Spying On Their Own Customers

This is an event in progress, but I believe it should be added to the article as it is relevant to their business practices: Progressive now says its spying was 'reasonable', The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 10/17/2007 Shawn D. 01:09, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

This link now returns a 404. Slackmaster K 21:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I assume this article is in reference to Progressive's usage based insurance programed named MyRate (formerly Tripsense) MattAster (talk) 23:16, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Advertising?

The whole section "Concierge Level of Claims Service" reads like advertising to me. I don't think it's important to the article to list exactly how the various services are carried out, and the particular wording of this section seems to put a very positive spin on things, and is therefore unencyclopedic. If anyone disagrees, please say so, but if not I plan to delete this section within the next few days. --Mediocre (talk) 22:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll second that. The whole article seems like advertising drivel to me. But the concierge level service sounds like something that was put in by some random advertising person at Progressive. Feel free to delete it IMO. Baggend (talk) 10:07, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd agree the way it's labeled is very advertising-esk. I'll rename it to "Claims Process" Nationwide has a very similar program called "Blue Ribbon" claims. (Disclosure: I work for Progressive and Progressive does not endorse or support my statements) MattAster (talk) 23:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Modified the title, and also added the name to the body since it's an advertised service MattAster (talk) 23:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Citation

What exactly needs citation please? I'm removing the tag if noone can comment within the next few weeks. MattAster (talk) 19:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

What needs to be improved here, Matt, is the origination of the sources. What is going on with the references as it stands is a good example of WP:PRIMARY. Five of the eight that are listed are from sources very close to Progressive Insurance. All Wikipedia articles need secondary or tertiary sources; items that are removed at least one level from the item being discussed. E_dog95' ^{Hi '} 18:28, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Then why don't you take a good step and mark the items that you are challenging. It's hard to source facts without using something that is tied pretty close to a company. MattAster (talk) 17:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I have replaced a few of the refs. Please use that style as an example to improve the article. E_dog95' ^{Hi '} 19:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I am deleting the POV tag. Only one of the seven sources in the current reflist is connected with Progressive.THD3 (talk) 16:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with File:Flo from Progressive Insurance.jpg

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I removed the image, and left a message on the talk page of the user who had added it. Grundle2600 (talk) 15:31, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Political contributions of Peter Lewis

I checked the articles of several comparable companies, including GEICO, Allstate, State Farm, AIG, Nationwide and Liberty Mutual. None of them refer to political contributions made by CEOs, board members, or board chairmen. I also checked several other non-comparable companies like Target, and they have no such listing. The only company in my search that listed political contributions was Outback Steakhouse, which apparently has its own PAC. Outback is hardly comparable to an auto insurance company.

Contributions by Peter B. Lewis should go in his bio article. His contributions are not relevant to the Progressive article because: 1) He is no longer CEO; 2) He is the non-executive Chairman of the Board and as such has no control over the day-to-day operation of the company. I am therefore removing the information about Lewis' contributions from the Progressive article.

I am also moving the information about the Beck controversy to the advertising section.THD3 (talk) 12:20, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Ballpark naming rights

According to our article on the "Field", ballclub owner Richard Jacobs named Jacobs Field for himself through 2006. Perhaps he enjoyed another year at no charge because there was no buyer? That article gives these two references

• ref name=hoynes> Hoynes, Paul. Tribe fielding offers to rename Jacobs Field, The Plain Dealer, May 24, 2006.</ref>

This one is no good to me either because it's broken or because i am using a library privilege that does not cover The Plain Dealer archives; in that case it may be useful to another editor (eg, a public or university library in Ohio may subscribe).

• ref name="Bloom1"> Sessa, Danielle Indians to Sell Naming Rights to Ballpark, Hire IMG Bloomberg, September 19, 2007 (accessed July 19, 2010)</ref>

This one hints that the city? authority? found it must cut the price. It hired an agency to recruit a new sponsor.

Better coverage of this episode must be low priority here. If this note proves fruitful, improvement of Progressive Field will be welcome. (I'll watch both for a while, probably not so long as the rest of year 2012.) --P64 (talk) 17:17, 23 May 2012 (UTC)