Talk:Pomerania during the Early Modern Age

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Almost all information is focused on Prussia, while history of Polish Pomerania is omitted. There are also severe POV issues-like claiming Gdańsk decided on its own to "join Prussia", while in fact it was annexed by Prussia in Partitions of Poland. There seems to be overreliance on couple of German authors as well.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 12:37, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, I would say adding a dispute tag was now a right thing to do, after the row of one-sided edits you made. Your recent effort is of very dubious value both in terms of language and the encyclopedic quality. With your edits, you were omitting stuff that would show the positive aspects that Prussian policies might have had (Both Protestant and Roman Catholic teachers taught in West Prussia, and teachers and administrators were encouraged to be able to speak both German and Polish). Similarly, you left out Fredrick's remarks on the szlachta and Poland's government (i.e. more general, but also balanced, information), and consequently replaced it with the more anecdotal stories on Frederick II once, twice or thrice using offensive remarks against Poles. Knowing how you tend to (mis)represent sources, that in fact do not reflect your POV, to pretend that they in fact do (Kotowski/Grudziadz), I'm not sure as to your summary of Piotr Stefan Wandycz's work and he's no incontestable author either. Someone who can access the books should take a look.
If balance is what you're really up to, then please do not forget the other side - Prussia - either. What you seem to be doing is simply entering the same cherry-picked quotes of Fredrick vs. Poles into as many articles as possible, often quite unduly, given the context. Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 13:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

As explained numerous times, nationalist and far right sources are not reliable as source of information.Also care to explain how you came here so fast? I advised you on WP:Stalk and I really would ask you to take this policy into consideration. Piotr Wandycz is an respected historian from Yale University with numerous credentials.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 13:48, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

I showed up so quickly, because I have the page and similar ones (treating Polish/German mutual history) in my watchlist. I've edited Early history of Pomerania and related subjects already, so I'm not stalking your edits. And I didn't even revert you (though I find some of your changes unacceptable), but just raised the issues that are similar to the ones I've gone through with you at Frederick II of Prussia. I'm waiting for third opinions here, but my own opinion is that your changes are not improving the general encyclopedic quality here either. Please take my concern and that of John as expressed at Talk:Frederick II of Prussia seriously, instead of just repeating the old story that all German authors that don't depict Prussia in the darkest of possible colors are immediately labelled far-right. Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 14:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

What German "authors"-I mean Ritter-a far right nationalists. There was a mistake in adding him sometimes, which needs to be corrected.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 14:32, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Updated chronology and wording

Updated chronology and awkward wording, after Polish territories didn't became part of Kingdom Prussia out of nowhere.

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This article is pretty close, but 1) few (very few, but still) paras are unreferenced. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:24, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

section Partition of Poland

The whole paragaph of "Frederick despised Poles ..." is just a ranting on anti-Polish sentiment by Germans. Yes, this existed but should not be here. Same for anti-German sentiment or anti-Lutheran sentiment by the Polish. Paragraph should be fully deleted. --Tino Cannst (talk) 20:40, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Duchy of Pomerania a part of the HRR

@GizzyCatBella: Please provide a proof why calling the HRR a German Empire is undue! I understand that the Polish would like to have that the HRR was not German and, more particularly, that the region was "German" only in 1871, but this is just WRONG. Following your argument: Should we replace all reference to Poland-Lithuania with "Res Publica Utriusque Nationis"? By the same argument as you have for the HRR I can claim that this was not really Poland but a very different multi-ethnic state. So: Please stop sticking to undue Polish bias. --Tino Cannst (talk) 16:08, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

@GizzyCatBella: Please explain why employing the official title "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" would be "undue". I know that some historians try to claim that anything to be qualified as "German" stems from 1871, overlooking that the Empire slowly was seen changing from the Sacrum Imperium to an Imperium Germanicum from around 1500 on. --Tino Cannst (talk) 14:51, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Wrong. The official name is Holy Roman Empire, you are adding the word German to every article you touch, and that might appear as marking a territory Please read WP:NPOV - GizzyCatBella🍁 18:39, 29 November 2022 (UTC)