Talk:Plant community

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:07, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

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Phytocoenosis → Plant community

• Phytocoenosis is understandable only to specialists. Moreover, it is spelled differently by Americans (phytocenosis).. —Sylwia Ufnalska (talk) 10:02, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Proposed merge and move to Vegetation type

According to Robert Ornduff, Phyllis M. Faber, and Todd Keeler-Wolf, in their Introduction to California Plant Life, 2003 edition, page 113, "...plant communities (are) now more commonly called vegetation types...". FloraWilde (talk) 18:19, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose - while this might be true in California, it isn't true generally. The two terms overlap a lot, but they aren't synonymous (for example, while 'plant community ecology' is a major subfield of ecology, 'vegetation type ecology' isn't a thing. Guettarda (talk) 20:36, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

OK. I am not familiar with areas outside of California and the western US. I withdraw my proposal. FloraWilde (talk) 21:16, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

• comment- Vegetation type might more appropriately redirect to Plant community, with perhaps no more than a sentence mentioning the (near-)synonymy, or possibly a paragraph discussing the difference in usage if the term is a substantially well-defined subtopic of "plant community". In my opinion having variant articles on subtly different concepts hinders comprehensive knowledge (e.g. a reader led to the stub might not find information in the larger article), and may lead to a content fork. --Animalparty-- (talk) 05:53, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

You are right that the difference in usage needs to be put into Wiki. There appears to be a wide variation in usage, from the expressions being synonymous for some, to having different meanings altogether for others, to each expression being nearly meaningless for others. From my superficial reading in the past days, "plant community" seems more of an ecological concept, especially as to interactions among the plants, and vegetation type is more of a plant ID concept. Lets continue to develop each article, and revisit a possible merge one way or the other when there is more info as to whether a merge is or is not appropriate. FloraWilde (talk) 14:25, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Image of Alpine Heathland plant community?

The caption says "Image of Alpine Heathland plant community at High Shelf Camp near Mount Anne, Tasmania, Australia. Nut Mount Anne is only 1,423 m high. Why is this be considered to be alpine? FloraWilde (talk) 13:16, 7 September 2014 (UTC)