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Older discussion copied from Talk:African birdseye
Did Nando's really popularise peri-peri, or was it already popular? I hadn't heard of Nando's until a few months ago but I'd heard of peri-peri long before. Marketing text, or is it actually the case that Nando's introduced and popularised peri-peri in some places? Nach0king 18:53, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- Piri-Piri is not Malagueta. These are two different things! Piri-Piri is very small and hot, while Malagueta is larger, less hot. I'm a piri-piri fan and I even cultivate it. LOL. In Portugal piri-piri as always been popular, especially since the descolonization with a lot of people returning from Africa (
never heard of Nando's - it seems an ad). Piri-piri is used in chicken grill in Portuguese cuisine, it was influenced by Mozambican one. In Angola another kind of chilli Pepper is more popular, the Jindungo. see pic of jindungo: Jindungo. So I don't think that Piri-Piri is used in Brazil at all (as the African culture in Brazil is linked with Angola), and most Brazilians that I know always confuse piri-piri with malagueta, because they never heard of piri-piri before, if in Angola piri-piri was more popular I would not doubt that. Citation needed for that section. BTW nice name it has in English, it is really an African devil. LOL.--Pedro 20:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
- ooops... internationally...--Pedro 01:01, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Nando's is a trade name for a chain of restaurants that used to serve peri peri chicken in South Africa (possibly instead of curry chicken). I first came to know peri peri in Mozambique wher ein the local cafes one would see it as a liquid sause on the tables and used to spice up the food very much like salt and pepper. The liquid version is very hot and usually made with oil. There was also a dried powdered version which seemed not to be so hot. The Mozambiqueans told me that teh chillie came from Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe and was called Birds eye chillie, also Zimbabwean birds eye or african Birds eye and was orininally used for trade with the Portugese traders. It is also rumoured that the africans used to use it for trade with the Egyptians. (Mdek August 2006)
African birdseye & piri-piri
In this article, African birdseye is equal with piri-piri in Portuguese. However, in the taxonomy article of Capsicum, African birdseye belongs to the Capsicum frutescens species, while piri-piri belongs to Capsicum Pendulum species. Which one is the correct one? — Indon (reply) — 22:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Is this the same thing? If so, should we merge? Dwiki 02:30, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
African or S American?
Something I read in Nandos stores implies the "peri peri" originates from the east coast of Africa. Yet chili peppers aren't native to Africa - the chili pepper article says "Chili peppers and their various cultivars originate in the Americas."
This article [] says that the original pepper was Aframomum melegueta known as Melegueta or Piri-Piri (Swahili for Pepper Pepper) commonly used in Portugal as a spice - when the Portuguese got to Mexico they found Capsicum Frutescens and named it Melegueta or Piri-Piri as well and brought it back to Portugal and this is what is used in Piri-Piri sauce today .. to add to the confusion the main cultivar used is Capsicum Frutescens "African birdseye" even though it is a native of South America ... lɘɘяɘM яɘɫƨɐƮ 12:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Cut and paste move from African birdseye to Pili pili repaired
I have fixed the cut and paste move made here back in Dec 06, when Pili pili was created as a cut'n'paste from African birdseye, which had a non-trivial edit history. The edit histories of these two pages are now merged at Pili pili ().
Please note, cut'n'paste moves are generally undesirable since the edit history (a record needed to fulfill some GFDL licensing conditions) becomes lost and disassociated from the article.
It should now be possible (for an admin, at least) to simply move this article to whatever target is determined in the 'Requested move' discussion above, or even to move it back to the original at African birdseye, without losing the overall edit history. Cheers, --cjllw ʘ TALK 14:41, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
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Origin of Kuga Kuga
I think there must be a mistake, research and memory tells me that swahili for chilli is piripiri or pilipili (r and l are oftern interchangeable in swahili) so I don't know where kuga kuga comes from?
Article should be deleted
There are very few articles in Wikipedia as bad as this one. It is severely flawed.
How can we have an aticle about a plant that is grown in half the known world, but describe it only as far as it applies to Mozambique and its Portuguese and Portugese-India influence? The author demosrantes that he knows nothing about chillies, Portugal, Mozambique and Angola (it is NOT called piri-piri in Angola and only somtimes and recently does it get referred to as piri-piri in Portugal).
Piri-piri is not a cultivar, not even a species - it is a generic term for a preparation of hot chillies.
Then a paragraph on malagueta and Brazil is just idiotic, when in Brazil their are numerous types of chillies (and with different names) that would correspond to what the author here is trying to describe as piri-piri.
The part about Nando's is simply preposterous! I live in South Africa, my home language is Portuguese, I was born in Angola, I watch mostly Brazilian television at home.
- In Portugal, piri-piri and malagueta (the chilli pepper) are two different peppers. piri-piri is a preparation of hot chillies (piri-piri peppers), it can be generic: because of the popularity of the name or not: in stores, preparations made out of regular chilli pepers do not have piri-piri name in it and do not taste the same, although of course it is similar! some companies claim they create this preparation for over a century, but these hot chillies are made out of piri-piri peppers. Currently piri-piri is also sold fresh in many big market chains. People even put it in olive oil to give flavour to it, this tradition seems old. It can also be used for decoration growing in a vase. The article is very poor because many Portuguese do not collaborate in wikipedia, you can see that in several wikipedia articles. --Pedro (talk) 13:11, 18 April 2012 (UTC)