Talk:Piecegoods

Definition and article content

There were two definitions cited in the lead, but the definition given in the first sentence didn’t agree with them. I’ve changed the definition to match the refs, but the article now looks like a WP: COATRACK about weaving and the cloth industry in general. Any suggestions? Brunton (talk) 09:15, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Brunton Hi! Kindly allow me to help, At that time, the infrastructure and trading system was compelling for piece-goods; therefore, weaving, clothing industry, and trading limitations are informed; those things are not off-tracking WP:WINAC the main topic. AGF. ThanksRAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 14:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Rajiv. Your response above is meaningless bullshit. Would it be possible for you to respond to Brunton's comments, in English please thanks -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 17:00, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Roxy, Behave WP:NPA It is explained in the simplest form WP:WINAC. And Brunton is tagged. Do not jump in unnecessarily without knowing the topic. You have many unanswered things on other talk pages such as Sussi (cloth) and Khes. And what is Bullshit ?. Wp: Etiquette RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 18:07, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Brunton Is there anything unanswered and not understandable? Why is Roxy in-between every discussion? WP:BRD RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 18:15, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

What you have posted here doesn’t address the issue, because the content is not relevant to the definition of piecegoods as cloth sold by length. Brunton (talk) 04:47, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Brunton Hi! Dear Sir, the definition of piece-goods is not very much complicated; it is straightforward and complies with every source( Piecegoods (Piece goods, yard goods) are fabrics sold by length.) It was there when it was reviewed. Besides, you have corrected it already. Thanks for the same. My clarification primarily was for your COATRACK, and I explained why it was necessary to touch weaving and manufacturing parts. Hence the article is not diverting from the main topic WP:WINAC. I realized that it make sense to shortly describe( a cohesive conglomeration of interrelated and interdependent parts ). Kindly feel free to discuss and correct anything. I hope it is clear now. There are a few pending works at Talk:Khes, request, please spare some time to conclude the same. RegardsRAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 09:14, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Rajiv, did you call me a racist??? Please read WP:NPA and withdraw that despicable attack. Thanks. With regard to your claim that I have left questions unanswered in other areas of the project, did you write these questions in English, or were they in your usual WP:CIR unintelligible garble? -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 13:06, 17 December 2020 (UTC

There is no reason that the shortcomings of particular technologies would necessitate selling the products by length, so all the stuff about different technologies is irrelevant. Once the irrelevance is stripped out pretty much all that will be off will be the definition, and WP:NOTDICT. I would suggest redirecting to Textile. Brunton (talk) 15:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Roxy the dog, Stop judging. Any policy WP: NPA is not an exception for you too. Spare me to do my job. I do not want to argue with you anymore. Choose your words carefully. You will get back the more hurtful otherwise. I have erased my comments for now. Peace AGF. ThanksRAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 15:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Brunton Newer technologies enabled more significant lengths of fabric rolls, which changed many dimensions of textile manufacturing and trade. This further helped in RMG. For your info. Knitted fabric is sold in weight (Kgs) and woven fabrics in linear length (meters or yards). Can you suggest another policy?RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 16:42, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

But none of this is specific to cloth sold by length to the customer, it’s all just about cloth generally.

In the lead we have a sentence saying that piecegoods was a term used for “a certain length” of cloth. This seems to contradict the dictionary definition you cited, which says that it is sold “from the bolt at retail in lengths specified by the customer“. Do you have a source saying what this “certain length” was? If not the sentence needs to be removed.

There are other issues with the article, for example some of the sourcing doesn’t seem to support the content it’s cited for, but I don’t really want to have to go into it in detail unless it can be established that there is something here that actually justifies an article. Brunton (talk) 19:01, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

I’ve found a source that says that “piece” was a term used to mean a 30 yard length of woollen cloth made on a handloom, and this may be where the term “piecegoods” derives from, but that doesn’t mean they are the same thing. Brunton (talk) 20:41, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Brunton, there is no length associated with the term "piecegoods" nowadays, and by that I mean the last 50 years or so. piecegoods are just discrete lengths of fabric. Your suggestion to redirect to Textile is a good idea which I shall implement unless you have changed your mind, or good reason can be found not to. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 20:55, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

No argument with that from me. The topic here seems to be conflating different terms to the extent that it is irredeemably confused. Brunton (talk) 20:59, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Done. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 21:07, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

in a world of one's own RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 01:45, 18 December 2020 (UTC)