Talk:Peter Aduja

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Peter Aduja/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Rationalobserver (talk · contribs) 20:30, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Lead

• when he was elected as a representative in the Hawaii Legislature.[5][9]

I would add the year he was elected to this first sentence.

• I suggest swapping a few of the proper names with pronouns, as there is too much repetition of Aduja
• served during World War II

I would mention which branch of the military he served in.

• until being elected again to public office

Which office?

• Aduja died in Las Vegas in 2007

I'd link Las Vegas

Early life

• immigrated with his family at the age of eight

In the lead you said he emigrated.

• and becoming an Eagle Scout

Reword

• Aduja graduated as salutatorian in the class of 1941,[2] Aduja went on to the University of Hawaii to major in government and history,[10] while attending university Aduja worked as a timekeeper at Pearl Harbor.

This is comma splice, so reword these sentences.

• Swap a few Adujas for pronouns.
• Following World War II he married Melodie "Lesing" Cabalona

You didn't link WWII in the lead, so don't link it here. Or link it both places.

Political career

• Take a look at this edit. When the subject is obvious, it's better to use pronouns to avoid the repetition of using a proper name multiple times in a short span of prose.
• This section is really just a list of things he did, and it lacks an overarching narrative. Try to smoothen the prose with transitional sentences so it reads less like a list.
• Professor Dan Boylan wrote that Aduja were one of three important Filipino politicians

Instead of the plural were, this should be the singular was.

• important Filipino politicians on Hawaii in the beginning era

Suggested reword: "important Filipino politicians 'in Hawaii during the beginning era"

• Aduja died in Las Vegas while on vacation

Suggested reword: "Aduja died while on vacation in Las Vegas"

Sourcing

Looks good

Conclusion

The article should be copyedited for grammar and flow. It appears to be verifiable, neutral, and stable. The coverage is not that broad; however, but maybe there isn't much more available material. Make sure you aren't missing any important details that might help flesh-out the biography.

@Rationalobserver: I have made the edits requested above, please see this diff here, reflecting those changes. Agreed, that there isn't many more available reliable sources about the subject, otherwise I would be more than happy to expand the content of the article; that being said the subject is notable for a historic first, and is deserving of the work put into the article thus far. Thanks for reviewing this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:58, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

I made a few edits to help the prose a bit. Take a look to see what I've done, and please revert if I've changed anything for the worse. I have a few more issues that I've added below. Rationalobserver (talk) 22:29, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Conclusion part 2

Lead

• "until being elected again to public office"

I think it would make sense to name which office here.

Early life

• Aduja worked as a timekeeper at Pearl Harbor

What does this mean?

Political career

• After two years out of the public sector, in 1966, he was elected again to public office

As with the lead, I think you should mention what specific office he earned in 1966. I see that it's clarified in the next sentence, but I really think this needs to be made immediately clear.

Later years

• Regarding scope of coverage, I wish there was some mention of specific political goals he might have achieved. As it is, we know that he was a politician, and it's obvious he was conservative, but what did he accomplish while in office? Surely the relevant sources mention a few examples.

I have made a large edit based on the recommendations above, including wikilinks to the timekeeper job, clarification to his elected offices, and some context of his family's emigration from the Philippines. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find anything about his goals while in office; however, the Boyle source stated that since Aduja was always a member of the minority party, any legislation would be taken over by the majority party which they would take credit for passing and implementing. Therefore, his largest accomplishment was being elected as a Republican in a state where that in and of itself is rare.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 05:57, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, RightCowLeftCoast. I'm concerned about the scope of coverage, so I've requested a second opinion. Thanks for your patience. Rationalobserver (talk) 18:18, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

If there are no other reliable sources that give in-depth coverage of the subject, how can I create more verified content? Believe me, I wish there was more reliable sources to draw content from, but I unfortunately do not live in Hawaii, where there maybe non-internet/electronic sources, which could be of use in expanding this article beyond what is already written.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:25, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

I am new to GA reviews, and this article strikes me as possibly not broad enough, so that's why I want a second opinion, because I would otherwise probably have to err on the side of caution and fail the GAN. Rationalobserver (talk) 16:11, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

I lean towards agreeing with the reviewer. However, I think we have a real simple fix.

• The "Political career" section could use a couple lines discussing any legislation he worked on.
• In the "Later years" section, the line "In 1991, Professor Dan Boylan wrote that Aduja was one of three important Filipino politicians in Hawaii during the beginning era of Filipino politics in Hawaii" is begging for more info, even if just a simple line expanding on why he is considered so import.
• Add a line to the first paragraph to the lead further discussing his notability if possible. This will give a little more umpf to the summary.

Nice work. I really believe just a little bit more is easily attainable.Cptnono (talk) 00:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

I agree with User:Cptnono. However, I do think you should add a few more sentences to his later years, talking about any significant contributions that he made later on. Thats just my personal opinion. However, @RationalObserver: I know that it is your GAR, so I'll let you decide what to do with this review. Let me know If you don't want my comments. All links look like they are verifable, and they are not dead.

• I think you could add some info about where his sugar plantation was on Hawaii in the "Early Life" part of the article. It only has to be a couple more words. It doesn't have to be a lot. It looks like it is begging for more info. @Cptnono, Rationalobserver: Let me know if I'm mistaken, that's just what I noticed. Overall, I think it should be passed. Let me know what you think. Yoshi24517^Chat _Online 18:01, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks for your input, Yoshi24517! You are welcome to drop in at any of my reviews! To clarify, do you think the article is currently worthy of GA status, or do you think the above improvement should be made before passing GAN? Rationalobserver (talk) 18:05, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

• @Rationalobserver: I think so, the comments I said are optional. Thank you for letting me input. Yoshi24517^Chat _Online 18:22, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks again, Yoshi24517. Per above, I am closing this as passed. Rationalobserver (talk) 18:45, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

First let me say thanks to everyone who reviewed this article Rationalobserver, Cptnono, & Yoshi24517.
Now I was not able to find any specific legislation that the subject of this GAR was able to pass. I had read while working on this article, that the subject wasn't able to get any legislation passed, as any ideas that found traction were passed as legislation written by the majority, Democratic, party. I was able to find at least one failed election attempt, but there was very little information on those that he lost in the 70s and later. I did expand the later life information, and hope that met what was being looked for. As for the plantation where he grew up, I didn't find much information regarding that.
I utilized all the references that I could find online that would pass muster per WP:IRS, and short of travelling to Hawaii and finding written sources there, I can't really expand more than I have.
Thanks for the pass of this GAR, and the effort it took to review it.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 10:59, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome! It's a great little article that you should be very proud of. I hope you continue to make these types of contributions to Wikipedia! Rationalobserver (talk) 17:17, 3 March 2015 (UTC)