Talk:Peace Sells... but Who's Buying?/Archive 1

Grammar and Punctuation Edits

Changed some grammar and punctuation--please let me know if you have any issues with what the article now reads as. Thanks!

--Sean 04:58, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Every pressing of the song "Devils Island" emits an apostrophe. --AlexOvShaolin 01:31, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Typing the address doesn't work

I tried to reach this page by typing the full address on the navi bar (I don't really bother about it), but Wikipedia removes the "?" in the end and thus drives me to a non-existant article page.

Can anyone at Wikipedia please fix this lag?

BetacommandBot 02:07, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

devil's island

intro riff kinda sounds like the intro riff of the 2nd guitar in am i evil by diamondhead —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.146.157.12 (talk) 23:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

On the liner notes of the album it says "boycott noise metal" does anyone know what (or who) they are referring to? With proper documentation I think this would be a great inclusion in the article. I was always curious about this since I first saw it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.23.155 (talk) 10:32, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Good Mourning/Black Friday

What happened with the info of that song? Paranoidhuman (talk) 22:51, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Remixed and remastered release

Article said: "(though it is not known if the remaster is of the Combat release, the Capitol release, or a combination of both)".

Took it out because it makes no sense. The album was REMIXED, so "the remaster[ing]" has nothing to do with either of the two older mixes. Also, the sentence itself is misleading, as I can find no information showing that the original "Combat mix" was ever officially released, whereas the Capitol mix was certainly released; furthermore, the Capitol releases feature the Combat logo all over the place.

Comparing album credits and the sounds of the various releases of this album, I'd say it's fairly obvious that the Randy Burns mixes featured as bonus tracks on the expanded edition are from the original Combat mix. This might be what the text I took out was getting at, but if so, it definitely needs to be reworded (and I feel it would be better placed somewhere other than the introductory paragraph--perhaps at the end of the track listing). I'm leaving the whole thing out, however, as this is entirely original research on my part (I have not sought out any "Combat mix" bootlegs). Funkeboy (talk) 15:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Article title

This might seem like a rather minor issue, but since the 'B' in 'But' is capitalized normally, when referring to the album (as it is in the article itself), shouldn't the title of the page be changed to reflect that? i.e. 'Peace Sells... but Who's Buying' to 'Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?' --L1A1 FAL (talk) 03:44, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

The Wiki guidelines state, "In titles of songs, albums, and band names in the English language, the project standard is to be capitalize:

The first word and last word in the title. All other words except for coordinating conjunctions (e.g., and, but, or, nor), prepositions (of, to, in, for, on, over, with), articles (an, a, the), and the word to in infinitives. Note that short verbs (Is, Are, Be, Do) and pronouns (Me, It, His) are capitalized" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Albums).

So it appears to not be needed, but Frank Sinatra "Nothing But the Best" is spelled with a capital "B" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_But_the_Best_(album)). The word "but" in both cases is a coordinating conjunction.

So, it appears lower-case is correct, but I agree it just doesn't look right here, especially considering it is capitalized throughout. Personally, I would change it. (Rking32 (talk) 00:54, 13 January 2011 (UTC)).

Yeah, I'm more than a little slow getting back to this, but I think I'm just going to go ahead and change it, although normally, I would think 'but' wouldn't need to be capitalized. As far as I am concerned though, since the title is generally written with 'But' capitalized, that is how it should be here. As seen on the band's website: http://www.megadeth.com/discography.php?era_id=2 (note the Capitalized 'B' in 'But')--L1A1 FAL (talk) 01:51, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Page move will not work since there is a redirect under the proper title already (that of course redirects here), and I do not feel like doing this manually at the moment, so I will probably just let this go for the time being.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 01:59, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Andy Somers redirect here??

isn't Andy Somers The Police guitarist? what is the relation of andy somers with this article? Redyka ^{talk with me?} 09:20, 15 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redyka94 (talk • contribs)

I'm sorry, but you're completely wide of the mark. Andy Somers and Andy Summers are two totally separate people. And Andy Somers DID have a hand in the production of this album. As such, since he's only noteworthy for that, I have requested for the Andy Somers article to be deleted. If I have not done so correctly, please follow through. Thank you. EonMinator (talk) 13:45, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Album's Remixing & Remastering History

The article says: "It was remixed and remastered in 2004 by Dave Mustaine, and again in 2011 as part of the album's 25th anniversary celebrations."

This is incorrect, since there are no 2011 mixes of this album.

There are four versions. The early mix made by Randy Burns in Combat Records. Then, the band went to Capitol Records and the album was mixed once again. This is considered the original and official mix of this album. In 2003, they released a DVD-A. It provides the album in three different formats: DVD-A MLP 5.1 audio, DTS 5.1 audio and LPCM stereo (all three newly mixed). It also contains an interview if I'm not wrong. In 2004, the new stereo mix made the previous year was released along with the rest of the catalog in CD format as part of the whole "Remixed & Remastered" campaign (none of the other albums received the DVD-A tratment though). They included four songs featuring the early Randy Burns mix as bonus tracks, being (partially) oficially available for the very first time. In 2011, they released a box set featuring both early Randy Burns and original "Capitol" mixes newly remastered, plus the 2004 mixes by Mustaine; but with the bonus tracks now removed, since all of the Randy Burns mixes were already available in the other disc of the box.

Tormanoid (talk) 03:58, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

And what about the 2003 remixed DVD-Audio release by DTS? I came here for a bit more info about that mix, and there's no mention of it in the whole article... 78.8.102.194 (talk) 23:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Do you have any sources (not advertisements) that mention that version? If you can provide refs for it (especially Dave mentioning it in an interview or whatever) then feel free to add it. I can't say I've heard of that version, but perhaps it was marketed in a non-English speaking region or soemthing --L1A1 FAL (talk) 23:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

It was definitely released in the USA. The reason it's hard to come by (and even hear about) is that the format used (DVD-Audio) was never targeting the mainstream market, focusing on audiophiles instead. The label that released this version (DTS Entertainment - a now defunct part of DTS, Inc.) was specializing in re-releases of well-known albums for the audiophile market, remixed and remastered to take advantage of DVD-Audio allowing much higher fidelity than CD-Audio (and optionally surround). So this is a very niche release.

This DVD contains two mixes of the album - one in 5.1 surround and one in stereo. Both in 96kHz/24bit quality - i.e. much higher than CD-Audio, which uses 44.1kHz/16bit.

Quick googling reveals these two reviews and this pirate release. Don't shoot me for the last one, the page contains lots of useful info that qualifies under fair use, and anyway, it was posted half a year ago, so the download links are most probably long dead ;-).

78.8.102.194 (talk) 02:21, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Oops, forgot to mention that one (I will edit my 1st message). Yes, it's a legitimate version. It' was officially released in 2003 as a DVD-A . You can find it on Megadeth's webpage. Scroll down to the year 2003, fourth line, you will see it there. Tormanoid (talk) 06:39, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Release date in the main article and in the info section.

The info section on the right states the release date as July 1986, and I have seen other sources on the internet state this same date. In the main article body, however, it states the release date as October 1986, linking to the official Megadeth discography page as reference, but that page no longer exists. Just wondering is the October date a mistake?

Here is the current page for Peace Sells on Megadeth's discography page, it only states the release date as 1986. http://www.megadeth.com/release/peace-sells-whos-buying