Talk:Parfait d'amour

I've started an article on this drink, expecting that it wouldn't be difficult to find enough information on the drink to get a reasonable-length article out of it. Alas, I've been finding it extremely difficult to find any good information on the drink, (apart, of course, for about 20-30 cocktails that use it). Does anyone have any idea as to possible references that I might have missed that could give this article a boost? -- Kirby1024 12:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I've reviewed the information on the three major cordial house's websites and included it in the article. I'll also add it to the list of liqueurs page. --Consuelo D'Guiche 20:32, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

When I dip into Samuel Hahnemann's Der Likörfabrikant, vol. 2 (1785) -- a translation of Dubuisson's L'Art du distillateur ... (? 1809) -- I see that Dubuisson states that the liqueur was given its name by a Solmini, and that it is nothing but Eau de Cedrat coloured red by cochenille (i.e. not from roses). Most older recipes I have seen confirm that Parfait d'Amour was based on cedras (citrons, Citrus cedra), with occasional addition of other citrus fruits. In other words, it was probably more a marketing trick than a genuine invention/development.

An article in Fraser's Magazine (1843) entitled "Classics of The Table -- Sweetmeats, Beer, Cider, Perry, Liqueurs, and Wine" by Thomas Carlyle, ascribes the Eau de Cedrat liqueur to Sieur la Faveur of Montpellier. (This article is easily found at books.google.com. I also find a very similar claim from 1815 in "Histoire de la vie privée des francois" by Pierre J. B. Le Grand d'Aussy -- also found in books.google.com: just search for for Solmini and Cedrat. Actually, the text is so close to Carlyle's that I suspect his must be based on the French source. The French text, however, makes it clear that la Faveur was a distiller.) -- Athulin (talk) 21:29, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Further checks now identifies Dubuisson: L'Art du distillateur et marchand de liqueurs (Paris, 1779), p. 283 (avail. through Google Books) as the earliest source for Solmini as (a?) creator, and cochenille as colouring matter. (Further information may be available in Encyclopédie Méthodique (Paris, 1788), but it looks like it is largely taken from Dubuisson.) Athulin (talk) 08:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

I was going to add links to cocktail recipes from what I consider to be one of the most reputable cocktail blogs around, Cocktail Virgin, but I was warned by the automated filter against linking to blogs as they rarely meet the criteria for sources. Given that I'm linking largely for the recipes and that Frederic Yarm's posts are always informative and cite the publications from which the recipes originate, does it seem reasonable to include his drink posts in this article? For example, https://cocktailvirgin.blogspot.com/2023/06/jupiter-cocktail.html. -- Thepelkus (talk) 15:29, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

I think that should be avoided: it may fit an article on cocktails, but if it doesn't provide any authoritative information (i.e. good sources) for Parfait d'Amour itself it would seem to be somewhat off-topic, and will probably be removed in the future. Athulin (talk) 15:29, 17 March 2024 (UTC)