Talk:Panun Kashmir

Latest comment: 10 years ago by Kjtobo in topic Reference details and archived URLs

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There are 27000 google hits .[1] It is quite notable matter in the modern history of Jammu and Kashmir in India.Shyamsunder 015:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

Panun Kashmir site can't be quoted, it contains personal views of certain people... Does that mean we can quote from websites created by Terrorist organizations to prove their point, if they have high traffic in google... Oniongas (talk) 01:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)Reply
Oniongas, your logic is perverse. If the representatives of the group who are seeking Panun Kashmir publish a website, should it not be referenced in the Wikipedia article which describes this sought land?

Yes fact of the matter is that Kashmir Muslims are fighting for an Islamic state. That is the ground reality. If the turmoil in Kashmir is not based on religion then why is it that only Kashmir Muslims are demanding a separate state? Hindus and Buddhists are not part of any such moment?

Take for example the LeT [[2]. This group operates in Kashmir but is largely comprised on non-kashmiris and they have an open agenda for jihad in Kashmir. This is what about.com has to say

"Pakistan played a role in promoting militant Islamic groups in Kashmir in the 1970s and 1980s. Substantial evidence exists that Zia-ul-Haq, Pakistan's Prime Minister from 1977 until 1988, used militant groups to encourage the idea that Kashmir represented a religious conflict, in which Muslims were oppressed by Hindus." [http://terrorism.about.com/od/centralandeasternasia/tp/Pakistan_Kashmir_History.htm ]

The U.S. State Department lists three Islamist groups active in Kashmir as foreign terrorist organizations: Harakat ul-Mujahideen, Jaish-e-Mohammed, and Lashkar-e-Taiba.

[http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/122599.pdf ]

Accuracy of the Number of Displaced Kashmiri Pandits edit

Even if the Panun Kashmir organization's estimate of 700,000 displaced Pandits is inaccurate, why is this criticism listed so many places in the article? Furthermore, only one alternate estimate has been cited. Why not more, including those from governmental and international bodies? 216.15.48.122 (talk) 04:54, 16 July 2010 (UTC)rkrReply

Islamic Terrorists edit

What is Islamic Terrorist. I guess Kashmiris are not fighting to create Islamic nations but for achieving the right of self-determination according to the UN resolution. I am not discussing what Kashmiris want but justifying that "ISLAMIC TERRORISTS" is not the appropriate word in Kashmir situation and this is just a propaganda. Oniongas (talk) 01:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

Oniongas, you are generalizing. Do you have any statistics that the minorities (Hindus, Buddhists, Christians) also seek the right of self-determination? If not, how can you make such a sweeping comment regarding the sentiments of Kashmiris? 216.15.48.122 (talk) 04:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)rkrReply
Oniongas There is considerable evidence or religion related crimes by Muslim terrorists in Kashmir. Many of Kashmir's militants are not Kashmiris, but Pakistani Punjabis and Muslims from other places in the world. A few days ago, two girls were humiliated and butchered in Sopore as a part of religious policing. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Sopore-girls-were-friendly-with-Christian-believers-says-Kerala-evangelist/articleshow/7475210.cms They want an Islamic state, where some of their leaders have outright said that they don't care for Kashmiriyat. "I don't believe in Kashmiriyat, I don't believe in nationalism. I believe there are two nations - Muslims and non-Muslims" among other things http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiya_Andrabi I think this sounds like Islamic terrorism. Don't see any ambiguity at all. 59.182.92.187 (talk) 05:18, 13 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Reference details and archived URLs edit

Greetings! I found this page on Category:Articles_needing_link_rot_cleanup_from_April_2012. I added a full citation for the Contemporary South Asia article and removed the Template:Linkrot tag. I noticed that panunkashmir.org had been taken down, so I added archived pages from the Wayback Machine. They're still primary sources, but I thought I'd capture the links for clarity. I'm just a cleanup editor, and don't know the subject. I hope this helps! Kjtobo (talk) 16:25, 17 December 2013 (UTC)Reply