Talk:Order of the Immaculate Conception of Vila Viçosa

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Correct Name of the Order?

The name of this order is given inconsistantly through this article. The correction translation of the name of the order from Portuguese is obviously the 'Order of Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception of Vila Vicosa', even though theologically the term the 'Immaculate Conception of Our Lady' would make more sense, i.e., a conception is an event predicated of a person, not a person of a conception. In other words, the Virgin Mary did not immaculately conceive herself 67.52.199.50 (talk) 21:16, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Adding References

As one has probably notices, it is difficult to obtain references that are not in Italian or Portuguese. Most of the English references only pertain to individuals who have received the knighthood. It is hoped that other people will work on this topic.

2008-6-26 Prof. Carl Edwin Lindgren,FWAAS Royalhistorian (talk) 05:07, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I would not be surprised if the references in other languages also were similar. Have you actually seen them? Before trying to find them it would be useful to know if any of them providedsignificantinformation to show the impotance.DGG (talk) 17:35, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Relating to the references, I have been fortunate to not only have seen the works and articles but have them in my library which is rather extensive. I can make these available to other scholars. Additionally, I do read Italian, Spanish, some Portuguese and French. Relating to third party references. most of the references are by leading scholars in the world of chivalry. Alas, chivalry and chivalric orders are specific and elite topics. A rather severe limitation with Wikipedia is that many 'scholars' who write on a specific area are not qualified, cannot read but English, do not possess a significant personal library on the topic and are not professors or scholars in the areas in which they write. I have taught graduate courses in Religious and Military Orders, Chivalry and Medieval History for eight years. DGG has been very helpful in assisting me in the aforementioned matter. Royalhistorian (talk) 06:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Prof. Carl Edwin Lindgren, DEd (UNISA), MEd (U. of Mississippi), FCP (Lond.), FCollT, FRAS, FSA Scot Fellow, World Academy of Art and Science

Third party references include:

COMMISSIONE INTERNAZIONALE PERMANENTE PER LO STUDIO DEGLI ORDINI CAVALLERESCHI (International Commission for Orders of Chivalry), Registro degli Ordini Cavallereschi: relazione della Commissione internazionale permanente per lo studio degli Ordini Cavallereschi, Bologna, 2001-2006.

Montells y Galan, Jose Maria de and Escudero y Diaz-Madronero, Alfredo. 2006. Orden de la Immaculada Concepcion de Nuestra Senora de la Viçosa. Tesoro Ecuestre: Las Ordenes Dinasticas de Caballeria. Sociedad Heraldica Espanola, pp. 80-81.

Guy Stair Sainty. 2006. The Order of Our Lady of the Conception of Vila Viçosa. World Orders of Knighthood & Merit. Guy Stair Sainty (editor) and Rafal Heydel-Mankoo (deputy editor). United Kingdom: Burke's Peerage & Gentry. 2 Vol. (2100 pp). pp. 694-700.

Secretariado de Estado da Cultura. Tesouros Reais. Lisbon: Textype - Artes Gráficas, Ld.ª, 1992. ISBN 972-9496-12-9.

Peter Bander van Duren. 1985. Orders of Knighthood and of Merit, Gerrads Cross, Colin-Smythe.

Academic articles and works by the Vice Chancellor who is a noted scholar and writer include:

Evaristo, Carlos. "Il Reale Ordine de Nostra Signora della Concezione Immacolata di Villavicosa". degli Uberti, Pier Felice. And Maria Loredana Pinott (Eds.). Agigento 16-18 Novembre 2007. Convegno Internazionale “Storia, funzione, valori e attualita degli Ordini Cavallereschi e di Merito: I sistemi premiali nel Mondo e nell’Italia pre-unitaria sino al moderno Stato federalista.” International Commission for orders of Chivalry (ICOC). Pp. 236-38.

Evaristo, Carlos. 'Il Reale Ordine di Nostra Signora della Concezione Immacolata di Vila Viçosa". Il Reale Ordine di San Michele dell’Ala. Sommario n° 28 - ottobre-dicembre 2007. Il Mondo del Cavaliere Rivista Internazionale sugli Ordini Cavallereschi. pp, 103-111.

Evaristo, Carlos. Gli Ordini Portoghesi Della Casa Di Braganza: Evoluzione Storica Ed Attualita pp 227-- 240