Talk:Nuclear Malayo-Polynesian languages

Philippine Languages

According to the Ethnologue report for Malayo-Polynesian, the Philippine languages are not classified separately from the nuclear Malayo-Polynesian languages. In fact the report does not have a Nuclear Malayo-Polynesian Language category.

Next thing, Wouk and Ross' (2002) report (The history and typology of western Austronesian voice systems) as well as Adelaar and Himmelmann's (2005) report classifying the Philippine languages outside of the nuclear Malayo-Polynesian category seem dubious. All of a sudden they figured that all the Philippine languages are separate from where the rest of languages of the Malay archipelago are classified. Doesn't that contradict what the Philippine languages are made of (especially Maranao, Bahasa Sinug/Tausug, etc.)?

Also, there seem to be some inconsistencies with the language map in this article. Those parts of Borneo that were marked in dark red, representing Sunda-Sulawesi branch of nuclear MP, were also marked yellow, representing Borneo-Philippine branch supposedly outside of nuclear MP, in the map in the general article about Malayo-Polynesian languages. If those areas of Borneo that were supposedly classified as Borneo-Philippine in the general article are marked in dark red as Sunda-Sulawesi in this article, this would imply that the Borneo-Philippine languages are actually Sunda-Sulawesi, and thus nuclear MP (whether Borneo-Phliippine can be a sub-branch of Sunda-Sulawesi or just totally one with Sunda-Sulawesi). Hopefully someone will compare the maps and notice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azndragon126 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

There are several contradictory classifications of MP. Whichever map we choose, updating the classification will make it out of sync with the map.

However, the two maps are consistent. I think what you're seeing is a change in color along the line where two groups are brought together; the border itself doesn't move. kwami (talk) 03:11, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Borneo as a homeland of the Malay-related languages?

Borneo as a Cross-Roads for Comparative Austronesian Linguistics. This looks rather interesting. Komitsuki (talk) 16:11, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

This is already mentioned in Malayic languages and Malayo-Sumbawan languages. Nuclear Malayo-Polynesian is a much broader group, which includes languages such as Javanese, or the Oceanic (including Polynesian) languages, which are only distantly related to Malay, so your comment is a bit misplaced here. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 01:09, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Merge

The NMP-hypothesis was proposed in a single publication in 2002, and has received little further scholarly attention from Austronesianists since then, so a full article runs against WP:Notability. For this reason, I will merge it into Malayo-Polynesian languages#Nuclear Malayo-Polynesian. —Austronesier (talk) 08:58, 11 May 2019 (UTC)