Talk:Norton Motorcycle Company

Problem with chronology : The company declined and went into liquidation in 1974, but in 1973 Norton was reformed by the British government as Norton-Villiers-Triumph (NVT), taking the Triumph brand from BSA. Ericd 21:48, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

See Norton Website. The Norton company closed in the UK in 1976. The company reopened in 1995 in Portland, Oregon USA manufacturing replacement parts and eventually new Norton models. This link is active, while the Dreer one in the article is not available.Seasalt 14:26, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Is a company still considered "fate: bankrupt" if somebody buys the rights to the name and trademarks and reopens for business? 70.57.4.19 (talk) 04:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, because in the case of an actual bankruptcy the "new" company which now owns the rights to the name/trademarks is a separate legal entity. Just as a "person" is considered a separate entity under the law, so too is a corporation considered a separate entity - a "person" - under the law. Once someone is dead they are no longer considered a legal entity - they are in a different realm - their body is no longer a person it is a corpse, and if you are a believer their spirit or soul is no longer in this world, at least from a legal perspective. So too for a corporation after bankruptcy proceedings have been finalized - the old corporation is "dead" and any new "re-incarnation" is considered a separate person under the law. So for example if I have a numbered company 1234567 Alberta Ltd DBA (doing business as) Norton Motorcycle Alberta, and it goes bankrupt, then someone else could potentially buy the rights to the name/trademarks from the trustee in receivership/bankruptcy and then be a new, separate corporate entity called, for example 1234598 Alberta Ltd dba Norton Motorcycle Alberta, or Norton Motorcycle Alberta (2008) Ltd, for example. 1234567 Alberta Ltd is still bankrupt, or dead. 1234598 Alberta Ltd is a living, evolving corporate entity ("person"), which may or may not share a lot of the same "corporate DNA" of its predecessor depending on how much if any of the "soul" of the predecessor was "re-incarnated" into the new company.

Note that the same is not true for if the company goes in to receivership, but dodges the bankruptcy bullet. In that case, it is possible for the "old" corporate entity to survive essentially intact - like a "near-death experience". It might lose an "arm or leg" or two (divisions sold off to allow the smaller, surviving entity to live). Please note that the examples and analogies I use here are purely explanatory from a layman's point of view for my own jurisdiction, there will be subtle (and/or major) differences in point of (corporate) law depending on what jurisdiction(s) are involved and where the company or companies operated. Garth of the Forest (talk) 14:49, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Norton Motorcycles is actually been remade and now competing in some events. some one should change the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TNArules (talk • contribs) 12:28, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Rewrite and references

I've made a start on a tidy up and adding in-line refs but still loads of 'facts' that need proper references Thruxton (talk) 15:42, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Maintaining Consistency

With Triumph motorcycles there are two named companies in Wikipedia, the story of Norton is very similar and should follow the same path.

The new company details are available from Companies House: http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/9f045535de739212a8d451a2ad52251b/compdetails

It does get tricky as the "old" company name, Norton Motors Ltd still lurches on providing spares for the Rotary bikes and has since merged? with Andover Norton Spares.

However, to keep it in line with current standards, I would suggest splitting the article into two; putting a sentence in the introductory paragraph of the old company about the new bikes, and trimming down the "Replicas and Revival" to point towards the new company.

The "Replica" part should also be updated, as it is not just Commandos which are made. There are a number of companies offering replica Norton Manx motorcycles too: http://www.manx.co.uk/ http://www.manxnorton.co.uk/index.htm etc

193.61.104.8 (talk) 11:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Started a bit here - am new to page making in Wiki; but feel free to change/use/update/delete: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:193.61.104.8/Norton_Motorcycles_(UK)_Ltd

193.61.104.8 (talk) 01:28, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Dreer production

Did Dreer actually go into production?

According to MotorCycle News UK, when the concern was bought, the only bikes which had been made were were three prototypes.

194.66.32.10 (talk) 12:24, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

No, Dreer did not go into production. They never got past the prototype stage. Mototom (talk) 03:51, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Slimline frame

< This frame was made in-house by AMC and is known as the "slimline" frame >

I'd like to see a reliable citation for this claim. Page 105 of Steve Wilson's 'Norton Motor Cycles' has:

. . . both John Hudson [renowned Norton employee] and Ken Sprayson of Reynolds have confirmed to me that, like all other Featherbeds outside the very first 1950 racers, every slimline was built at Reynolds' Tyseley works.

86.183.10.80 (talk) 01:46, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

FAG Superblend bearing?

The only thing I can find from Norton mentioning the Superblend bearing indicates it is a British Ransome & Marles 6/MRJA30. According to R&M this is not a standard MRJA30 but a special version of that bearing. They also indicate the part is still available. Are you absolutely sure that FAG even makes a 6/MRJA30 instead of a MRJA30 equivalent which would be a slightly different part?68.149.247.130 (talk) 19:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Wankel Engine

Are we sure about the phrase " but had many reliability issues requiring frequent servicing i.e. changing the primary drive chain every 100 miles."? Did you really have to replace the primary drive every 100 miles? 1000 miles I can believe, although even this figure seems far too frequent. --TrogWoolley (talk) 22:27, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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