Talk:North Caucasus

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Would be could if we had a map that specifically depicts the geographical region or political region. - PietervHuis (talk) 23:36, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Reference 1 might once have shown such map, but is something completely different now. --Finn Bjørklid (talk) 23:26, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

North Caucasus is in European Russia

Why are people reverting the inclusion of the fact that the North Caucasus is part of Europe? 94.192.38.247 (talk) 17:50, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Because you are deleting other description and adding a misquoted definition from a newspaper. - 7-bubёn >t 18:37, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

and because it has classically been known as "CaucASIA". Meow126.161.151.172 (talk) 18:52, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I am describing the region accurately and comprehensively and using a source from the BBC which verifies the information, if not in a verbatim way, in a logical way. I'll redit so as not to delete the other description. 94.192.38.247 (talk) 19:02, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

My Concise Atlas of the World, Second Edition (National Geographic, 2008) also has the Caucasian region claimed by Russia lying north of the "commonly accepted division between Asia and Europe". I don't believe putting that it is "part of Russia" is neutral; Russia claims the area, but so does the Caucasus Emirate and the Chechen Republican government in exile. JusticiaPorElMundo (talk) 03:51, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Europe or Asia?

The continent location for the North Caucasus is disputed. Some would say it is in Asia, while others, such as Calthinus state that it is in Europe.Thenabster126 (talk) 23:33, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Circuitous Logic

Article currently reads, "Geographically, the Northern Caucasus (territory north of the Greater Caucasus Range) includes the Russian republics and krais of the North Caucasus." So, Northern Caucasus means North Caucasus. This is circuitous and doesn't tell me where it is. 205.58.90.34 (talk) 17:36, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

A strange edit of Koban culture with the Jomon/Ainu

So since I was interested to learn more about North Caucasus ( Caucasus culture/language/DNA ) in general I read this strange edit

" Ancient cultures of the northern Caucasus are known as Klin-Yar community, with the most notable culture being the ancient Koban culture. A genetic study in 2020 analysing samples from Klin-Yar communities, including the Koban culture, found that the ancient population had a high frequency of paternal Haplogroup D-M55 (D1a2a1), which is surprising as this lineage is associated with the ancient Jōmon people and the modern Ainu people. Other haplogroups were Haplogroup J1 and Haplogroup G-M285.[2] "

When reading the study from the link https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409X20301486

" Mitochondrial and Y-chromosome diversity of the prehistoric Koban culture of the North Caucasus "

Highlights

• Our data suggest a relative genetic continuity of ancient Caucasus cultures;

• G2a Y-haplogroup which is frequent in modern Ossetians, Balkars, and Karachays was found in Koban culture;

• Koban culture might have the genetic footprints of Scythian invasions.

The Abstract says nothing about Jomon, Ainu or Haplogroup D-M55 ( D1a2a1 ).

So I'm guessing either this user 212.95.5.222 either made a mistake [1] or he is a sock of the block user edits Tomislav22 who's 4 edits all consisted of the same wrong edited information.Vamlos (talk) 15:14, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this question up. I have looked into it and it seems that you are looking at the abstract of the study. You must request full excess to read the complete study results. It is true that the results include (one) sample of D1a2a1 and mention the Ainu as typical carriers. Jomon people are however not mentioned. It is only one sample, not a "high frequency". This should be corrected. Thank you again for showing up this error. I will rewrite it respectively.-135.181.27.51 (talk) 17:32, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Why title name in Russian Предкавказье?

The article in English is linked, aligned with Russian Wikipedia article for exactly North Caucasus, Северный Кавказ, which in the narrow sense refers to the northern side, lying within Russia, of Caucasus mountains while the word Предкавказье means literally (lands) preceding Caucasus, possibly neighbouring it, that is flatlands, not mountains, which is strange. Flatlands, steppes dry grasslands to the north of Caucasus mountains seem to be a part of North Caucasus region only in the broad sense of the term.178.66.156.10 (talk) 06:38, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Map Labels

Is there a way to add the full names of the abbreviated krais and republics as mouseover text to the map? So that KC displays Karachay-Cherkessia, "Cya" displays "Chechnya", etc. And, if that's not possible, perhaps a legend would be a good idea? The map is a little difficult to read currently.

My knowledge of wikitext is really not up to the task here, so I wanted to add this as a comment at least. Thanks  - Tomatoswoop (talk) 19:13, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

I added hyperlinks as a temporary measure/partial solution for the time being. By sheer coincidence, all of the abbreviated regions were colour-coded in blue anyway, so there's no conflict there. (If it's even possible to override the default link styling, adding green and especially red hyperlinks would probably be confusing). Maybe a bit of an odd solution, but improves readability for now. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good and all.  - Tomatoswoop (talk) 19:25, 14 January 2023 (UTC)