Talk:Nemanja Vidić

Working Class Family

I've amended the 'working class family' description since it seems wholly erroneous. His mother, as the article correctly states was a bank clerk. Workers of the world unite, you have nothing to lose except your favourable staff lending rates doesn't have much of a ring to it. I've put lower-middle class, but really I think the class thing should be removed altogether. Would appreciate any feedback... User:petepetepetepete

Goals

I've removed details of Vidic's goals, other than his first goal for MU, his first goal at OT and his first CL goal. I think information of every goal is superflous. User:petepetepetepete

Fiorentina

Why no mention of Vidic's pre-contract agreement with Fiorentina and the reported £2m spent by Man Utd to Fiorentina to relieve this contract ? Niall123 12:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

If you've got some knowledge of the situation, go right ahead and include it in the article. I remember there being some wrangling over his transfer from Spartak Moskva but can't exactly recall what, when, or why. User:Zvonko

Someone keeps vandalising this and pasting trash jokes Please Get a Life Kendirangu 16:00, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Vidic definently had a pre-contract with Fiorentina before he signed with Manchester —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hairdev (talk • contribs) 09:04, May 4, 2007 (UTC)

Please add it to the article with a reference. // laughing man 19:41, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Why has someone taken off the part about the united fans attributing the automatic song monster to him, I feel it say's something about his game and who he is. Also the bit about the Chuck Norris quotes being re-defined for vidic, that's quite a quirky fun thing to add. Whoever took it off must be dumb or boring.

I reckon the person who took it off is the same person who keeps branding Darren Fletcher 'The Sparklehorse'

Ivanovic

Is Vidic married with Ana Ivanovic the Tennis Player?

No. Neil ム 11:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Vidic's goal against Everton

I have removed this paragraph, as a player's performance in one standard league game is not of particular note to an encyclopaedia. MitsuFreak has restored it as "there are hundred's of football player articles on wikipedia that are frankly rubbish". I am not sure how one logically leads to the other, but still. I don't think something like the fact Vidic scored a goal in a league game and won MoM (not his first goal, nor his last, and neither will it be his first or last man of the match award) is in itself worthy of inclusion. Neil ム 11:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

you know what i meant, that instead of removing referenced facts that you think dont belong in the article you should clean up other rubbish football player articles...but i'll leave the goal against everton out, and also, i removed the goal against tottenham, but we need the first United goal, first home goal and first champions league goal....i think it's settled now.....cheers--MitsuFreak 13:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

That makes more sense, thank you. I'll see if I can find anything on his first international goal, and his first goals for Red Star and Spartak Moscow. Neil ム 13:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

references

Does this article really need so many references in this paragraph?

"He is now recognised as one of the best defenders in the FA Premiership and in Europe. Nicknamed Vida[16][17][18] by his Manchester United teammates, he is highly regarded for his physical presence, heading ability in both defence and at attacking set pieces, and bravery.[16][18][19][20][21][22][23][24][25][26][27][28][29][30][31] Because of this, he enjoys a cult status among United faithful[5][19][32][33][34][35] and is often compared to former Manchester United defender Steve Bruce for having similar characteristics.[16][18][24][36][37]"

Surely two or three max would be ok for each point? --Mas 18 dl 09:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it's too much, and makes it not as readable. // laughing man 14:37, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

done --Mas 18 dl 19:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Looks like more were re-added. Do we really need so many references?// laughing man 16:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

2 refs are for his nickname, 6 for flattering him (also by respected sources), 4 are for his cult status among supporters, and 2 for his simmilar style to Steve Bruce. Ok, maybe before (look above) it was too much and was hard to read, but 6 refs for praising him is needed. Wikipedia is striving to be the most referenced information source on earth, and you guys are trying to remove references. I think it's nicely readable now, or are you guys are running 640 * 480 resolution? I think the article is now one of the best among United players. Referenced with reliable sources, neutral. and contains no original research, see Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons. If there are more calls to remove references (which is against wikipedia's goals) then i'm going to have to take this to third parties...--MitsuFreak 08:40, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Vidics friend who died on a youth pitch

I think it was when he was at Red Star, his best friend suffered a heart attack on a training pitch and i think Vidic is always supposed to pray for him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.189.10 (talk) 20:09, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

not encyclopedic, maybe if the red star section would be substantially expanded---MitsuFreak 08:43, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Image

User:Laughing Man claims that Image:Nemanja Vidic.png is of higher quality than Image:Nemanja Vidić.jpg. I disagree, we should use the high resolution, lightened version.

Three users have tried to replace Image:Nemanja Vidic.png with Image:Nemanja Vidić.jpg ([1][2][3], but Laughing Man has reverted all of them. I'm replacing it again, as more users want the high resolution copy in the infobox. --Kjetil r (talk) 13:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Your assumption is not accurate. Those users all believed that image was the same as an image on the commons and was a CSD, but I've shown all those users that the image is NOT an identical version, but an alternate higher-quality version provided by the original photographer. Once they have seen the comparison, they have agreed that the alternate version was of higher quality and better suited for the encyclopedia article.

Looking at the images side by side, the quality difference is apparent:

other "high-res" image: this image:

// laughing man 15:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Vidic Injury 2007

I have an image of when Vidic was taken off when he broke his collarbone in 2007, its free license, as I took it myself, can this be put into the article somewhere?

No offence, but it's not a very good image. You can't even tell it's Vidic on the stretcher. Not really encyclopaedia quality, sorry mate. – PeeJay 15:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Manchester united

Can you tell me who wore the number 15 shirt before Vidic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.212.85 (talk) 16:06, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Kleberson (2003-2005). And before him it was Luke Chadwick (2001-2003), Jesper Blomqvist (1998-2001), Karel Poborsky (1996-1998), Graeme Tomlinson (1994-1996) and Clayton Blackmore (1993-1994). – PeeJay 17:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

PFA player of the year.

There seems to be an error where it says Vidic has won 2 PFA player of the year awards when in fact he only won one. The PFA player of the year for the 2010/2011 season was won by Gareth Bale not Vidic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.188.88.34 (talk) 07:11, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

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Nemanja Vidić Sources and Legacy in Lead

There is an ongoing edit war I am attempting to end between Spirit Fox99 and myself, which is currently taking place on Nemanja Vidić's Wikipedia article.

Currently, as of the last edit that they rolled back to, the article states the following in the lead, concerning his legacy, that he:

"is considered as one of the greatest defenders in the history of the sport."

According to Wikipedia guidelines, these sources (from websites such as SportBible.com, TheFootballLovers.com, and TheTopTens.com, would not be deemed reliable or reputable journalistic sources; moreover, some of them are secondary sources citing other more reliable ones, for which I have so far been able to find primary sources, however. I have therefore tried to find more reliable sources that corroborate this statement (something with which I agree, I might add), and implored said user to do so as well, but have so far been unsuccessful unfortunately. I have found more reliable sources that instead described Vidić as being one of the best defenders of his generation and in the history of the Premier League, so I modified the content in the lead to include the following statement and sources, namely that he:

"is considered as one of the greatest defenders in the history of the Premier League, as well as one of the best defenders of his generation."

However, my edits have been repeatedly reverted, even when I, and other users, such as PeeJay, have reverted these back explaining why the original sources were flawed. The other user disagrees, and believes that they are in fact acceptable sources. I would like to bring an end to this once and for all, and resolve it and come to a consesus so as to avoid similar conflicts and issues in the future, so I please ask for your input on this. Thank you,

Messirulez Messirulez (talk) 13:55, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

I would like to say that I respect the above wikipedia user for their agreeablilty with the statement in question. They too have an understanding of the difficulty finding sources to support it. I believe this may be due to the article subject being a defender. Sadly, such sources relating to forwards and midfielders are abundant, however defenders once again get left in the dark. This is especially true when trying to find a reputable source. I do however strongly believe that SPORTbible is a good, verifiable, and reputable source to use in this instance. They are used as a source of information source by millions of people. To provide more context, they are followed by 2 million users on X (formerly known as twitter), 7 million people on Instagram, and 13 million people on facebook. They are followed by this many people across these platforms partly because they are indeed a trusted source. In the new age of technology, many archaic sources of information (although labelled as reputable through their long tenures on top of the news world) are being replaced by sources such as SPORTbible, which is predominantly online. In this case, with an unrefuted statement in question, I believe this source is more than valid as a support.

TheTopTens is another source which was provided. This is a site which is followed by many football fans. The source in question took a poll with over 11,000 votes.

Some of the other sources reference another poll conducted by the very reputable skysports which had over 20,000 votes.

I would like to reiterate that articles on the GOAT football defenders are almost non-existant. Another thing to note is that if he was even just a top 5 greatest defender in Premier league history (which he undoubtedly is with his accolades) he would by default be one of the greatest in the sport of all time. Consider the fact that the Premier League has been the pinnacle of football (soccer) for many decades. He is one of the only defenders to win the Player of the year award, and the only one to ever do so twice. Spirit Fox99 (talk) 16:26, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

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