Talk:Nazi Punks Fuck Off

Culture Effect

That section isn't really accurate. First off John Lydon and Siouxsie Sioux were through with punk way before this song came out, and I'm pretty sure they both ceased with any and all wearing of nazi regalia then too. Besides, the initial British punk scene had by then completely burnt out (or if you prefer, transitioned to postpunk) by then and with it the wearing of swatstikas. So the influence of the Dead Kennedys song as far as I know was mainly on the US west coast where the central point of hardcore punk was at the time.

reply: - i think this point was communicated effectively in the section. sid vicious was already 2 years gone when the song came out.

Insult Edit

I'm editing out the comment "(a testament to the intelligence of these audiences)". It's an insult to the intelligence of people that listen to this music, and with a bias has no place here. --XeNoX 01:51, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

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The third paragraph reads more like a review than a description of the song. I'm not sure how to fix it besides just killing the whole paragraph. JRoman 03:33, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup

This article needs to be reformatted and reworded. As it stands it is unencyclopaedic. --^pirate 19:33, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Propositions

Well, for starters, we can work on moving some of the information in the top section to different (new) sections in the body of the article. Splitting up that chunk of information would make it easier to read just what you wanted to read:

• I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the top should just show when and on what album the song was released, and a brief summary of what it's about.
• Some of the top, for instance, can be moved to the trivia section, since a lot of it is more trivia-esque than "I must know this!"-esque.

I can't work on any of that now, but I will later on.

Insane99 13:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

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History section lacking sources

Also, I don't know if it is so accurate. As has been pointed out, the wearing of nazi symbols has been more connected with the late-70s British punk scene and was pretty much obsolete by 1981. Right now, the section borders on original research. Biafra himself said the song was more about people "acting hardcore" at concerts initially, but the meaning changed "in the minds of people" to refer to literal nazis (interview). --2.241.13.156 (talk) 13:14, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

I agree with this. The nazi symbol thing was brief and in the very early days and confined to souxie and Sid. It was old by 77. I always see this song as a rant against plastic punks, in the vein of [1] and [2]. Ceoil (talk) 13:22, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Although it had more resonance in the UK, with the BNP and the very active Nazi skinhead movement. Ceoil (talk) 13:31, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

I deleted the unreferenced History section because it had zero references and was factually inaccurate. Jello Biafra has said in at least one interview that he wrote the lyrics not about actual neo-Nazis, but about senseless violence that he saw in the punk scene. It was only later that the song became a rallying call against neo-Nazis and racists. Since I could not find a reference showing that, I had to delete the whole section.Spylab (talk) 19:12, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

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