Talk:Naum Faiq

Sources

I have been looking for any kind of material regarding Naum Faiq, but unfortunatly nothing has came up. One good source is the The following paper: The Origins and Development of Assyrian Nationalism. Submitted to the Committee on International Relations Of the University of Chicago. MA Thesis paper by Robert DeKelaita. User TheTriz has been constantly removing the source, if we can get a MOD to intervine it would be good. Iraqi (talk) 21:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

The source you speak of is AINA.org, find a reliable source and go from there, do not use unserious partisan sites like AINA.org or Bethnahrin.de. The TriZ (talk) 21:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Once again, the source is not AINA. AINA is only hosting the paper. The paper is a Masters Thesis work that appears to be reliable. Unless a neutral user disagress on this, you shouldn't move the source. Iraqi (talk) 22:06, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

So do ask a neutral user, but the facts are clear here, we don't use AINA as a source, no matter what. The TriZ (talk) 22:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

So now you are fabricating sources as well? I suggest you in the future don't remove fact tags or any other tags without actually doing anything to justify it. The TriZ (talk) 22:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure you understand what is a source. A source is not the actual website that hosts the material. Anyways, I was not the one who added the source, but due to your typical behavior, you seemed to be in the wrong end of the revert war. Iraqi (talk) 22:21, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Obviously you were though, so I suggest you change back to the right version. The TriZ (talk) 22:30, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

And the new source you wrote, that's not good enough, we have all reasons to doubt you since you already fabricated sources, and if you do a google search on the name of the source you get two hits, one for bethsuryoyo.com and the other is zindamagazine.com, both are Assyrian partisan sites and they don't even use your source in the same context. The TriZ (talk) 22:35, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Are unpublished theses and dissertations acceptable sources on Wikipedia? I'm not actually sure one way or another. Also, if this is a MA thesis, then a record of it should be available in the U of C library database. That should solve the disagreement. Ordtoy (talk) 08:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

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Syriac nationalism

Naum Faiq was not the founder of ‘Assyrian nationalism’ but the founder of ‘Syriac nationalism’. He represented the nation as the descendants of the Assyrians and Arameans and used both names. Naum Faiq also has several poems where he calls out to unite all the Middle Eastern Christians under the Aramean name.

Thus this means he’s specifically the founder of Syriac nationalism and not of Assyrian nationalism.

Lahawlaquwataillahbillah (talk) 17:21, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

H0llande

I reverted your edit as you removed sourced content (the poem named Homeland), and the source you reference "Source: Naum Faiq in Huyodo 28/3/1921" is a joke. There's no page number, editor, or any details of publication whatsoever. Your next reference [1] is just a url. When you make a reference, you need to specifically detail what it is that you're referencing, pages, authors, publishers, and year of publication. This is frankly a pathetic effort to support your own POV. Mugsalot (talk) 14:33, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

I replaced content to show Naum Faiq was a supporter of both names and since there already was a quote including the Assyrian name. See the new edit I made provided with sources.H0llande (talk) 14:39, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

I saw your edit, and I'm not impressed. Providing a url without any details whatsoever is not a source. Please consult WP:REFBEGIN to learn how to reference properly. Mugsalot (talk) 14:44, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

I just followed the WP:REFBEGIN guidelines to refer to the source. Thankyou.H0llande (talk) 17:48, 31 August 2020 (UTC)