Talk:Nationally recognized statistical rating organization

Capitalization

So it seems that the SEC is not consistent in capitalizing "nationally recognized statistical rating organization".

This SEC study] (see page 5) does not capitalize the term when spelled out, while the website does.

What is more important, however, is that the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, which is what Wikipedia articles generally follow, says here:

A proper noun or proper name is a noun representing unique entities (such as London, Jupiter, Larry, or Toyota), as distinguished from common nouns which describe a class of entities (such as city, planet, person or car).

The Wikipedia Manual follow The McGraw-Hill Handbook of English Grammar and Usage, which is a pretty standard reference.

Also, in changing the capitalization back to capitalization that is not consistent with WP:MOS, User:Epstein's Mother also undid the following other edits that I had made:

• fixing references,
• spelling out FDIC on first use per Wikipedia:MOS#Abbreviations (and most style manuals) for the convenience of readers (especially non-Americans) who may not be familiar with them
• removing in-line external links per Wikipedia:MOS#External_links.

The SEC report you cite to is from 2002. In 2006, Congress passed the Credit Rating Agency Reform Act, which defined the term. Since that time, you will notice that most references by the SEC to "Nationally Recognized Statistical Rating Organizations" use capitals. It's like "NASA" -- unless Wikipedia puts it as "National aeronautics and space administration," the words underlying "NRSRO" should be capitalized. Therefore, these changes should be reverted, as well as the page itself. Epstein's Mother (talk) 03:35, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

So I'm restoring my changes. Ground Zero | t 02:08, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

The Wikipedia style manual you cite to uses capitals in abbreviations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Abbreviations Epstein's Mother (talk) 03:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

NASA is a unique entity, NRSROs are not unique entities - there are several of them. A common noun is not capitalized just because an acronym is made of the name. See these examples:

• savings and loan association (S%L)
• automated teller machine (ATM)
• electronic funds transfer (EFT)
• annual percentage rate (APR)
• non-sufficient funds (NSF)
• personal identification number (PIN)
• alternating current (AC)/Direct current (DC)
• amplitude modulation (AM)/frequency modulation (FM)
• run batted in (RBI)
• research and development (R&D)
• intrauterine device (IUD)
• improvised explosive device (IED)
• sport utility vehicle (SUV)

Ground Zero | t 13:55, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

"NRSRO" is not a "common noun," but a legal term. Like "Qualified Institutional Buyer" or "Consolidated Supervised Entity." Epstein's Mother (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC).

I cannot find in WP:MOS an exception for legally defined terms. The description "common nouns which describe a class of entities" still applies. NRSROs are a class of entities, not a unique entity. Ground Zero | t 17:27, 13 May 2011 (UTC),

The term as used in this article describes a status, called Nationally Recognized Statistical Rating Organization, as defined by one country's government. Unless the article is rewritten to be about that status (or similar) worldwide the title should be capitalised. Peter James (talk) 20:53, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Nationally recognized statistical rating organization

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Nationally recognized statistical rating organization's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "ReferenceA":

• From Dodd–Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act: H.R. 4173, § 401
• From European Union: Riché, Preface xviii, Pierre Riché reflects: "[H]e enjoyed an exceptional destiny, and by the length of his reign, by his conquests, legislation and legendary stature, he also profoundly marked the history of Western Europe."
• From Subprime crisis impact timeline: Confidence Game, Christine S Richard
• From Credit rating: cited by authors Herwig Langohr and Patricia Langohr
• From International Monetary Fund: imf.org: "IMF Executive Board Discusses Sovereign Debt Restructuring—Recent Developments and Implications for the Fund’s Legal and Policy Framework" Public Information Notice (PIN) No. 13/61 May 23, 2013

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 16:05, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Add Demotech

Please add Demotech, Inc. as tenth nrsro, effective 7/11/2022. 2600:1009:B02A:E7D7:847E:5EA6:9F82:A17B (talk) 14:38, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Ok Bloodline12 (talk) 20:34, 20 January 2023 (UTC)