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COI edit request: content split edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi! I'm posting here on behalf of the National Medal of Honor Museum in Texas, which is paying me to post this request.

A few months ago, Tommcqueeney made several unsourced additions to this article that focused on a separate museum being built in South Carolina that is unconnected to the museum in Texas that was the focus of this article. (Ref: "Medal of Honor Museum to be located in Texas". Military Times. 3 October 2019. Retrieved 17 June 2020. The museum was supposed to be built in its current location in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, aboard the USS Yorktown, but Arlington officials made a final pitch to incorporate the museum in the city's growing entertainment district, according to the Charleston Post and Courier.)

While this article could certainly use additional depth, this seems like a pretty clear case of a content split. As an intermediate measure, I'd like to request that this article be reverted to this diff – the last before Tommcqueeney's edits.

Due to my COI, I won't be editing the article directly. Thanks for your help or feedback. Mary Gaulke (talk) 00:34, 26 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

So this seems like a rather complex situation. I've looked at a few articles on the topic, and thankfully I came across this which explained the situation very well (to the best of my knowledge). Anyway, I changed the article to reflect the situation and added an invisble note to anyway editing the article to look at that article before making major changes. I'll get to doing a content split soon if the topic is notable. (maybe there could be an article on the controversy itself as well.) Zoozaz1 (talk) 04:28, 7 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

COI edit request: article revert edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Hi again, COI editor for the National Medal of Honor Museum in Texas here. Since my last edit requests, it looks like Tommcqueeney (who appears to be something of a WP:SPA) has again made edits to overwrite a lot of the existing article contents, including the ones implemented through the discussion above. A diff of their latest edits is here. Given how this is in direct contradiction to the consensus achieved above, wondering if it's OK to revert to this diff, immediately prior to Tommcqueeney's edits.

Pinging @Zoozaz1: who was part of the above discussion, and @Tommcqueeney: in case they'd like to weigh in on why they changed so much of the article contents.

Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 18:31, 17 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Just noting here that Zoozaz1 has fulfilled this request. Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 01:38, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

2022 COI edit requests edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago10 comments3 people in discussion

Hi! As noted above, I'm posting here on behalf of my client, the National Medal of Honor Museum in Texas. Some edit requests for this article:

Lead edit

  • Update
The National Medal of Honor Museum is a museum that honors United States Armed Forces Medal of Honor recipients founded by the Medal of Honor Museum Foundation. This museum was authorized by the US Congress (SB & HR 1663) in 1999. That museum is scheduled to be built by the National Medal of Honor Museum Foundation in Arlington, Texas, mid-2023.[1] It is being funded by the National Medal of Honor Foundation.
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The National Medal of Honor Museum is a museum that honors United States Armed Forces Medal of Honor recipients, founded and funded by the National Medal of Honor Museum Foundation.[2] The museum is scheduled to open in 2024 in Arlington, Texas, with groundbreaking scheduled for March 2022.[3]


Question: any reason to remove the sentence about Congress approving it (other than it feeling a little crammed in)? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 10:19, 15 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Adam Cuerden: Hi! It just wasn't substantiated by the source, and I couldn't find a good alternative source. Mary Gaulke (talk) 14:24, 15 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

History edit

Recommend breaking this section into subsections, with the current content in "Planning".

Planning edit

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The group that has selected the Arlington Texas location abandoned the Mount Pleasant site and failed to raise the necessary funds. The previous Mount Pleasant effort was slated for completion in 2021, at a cost of $105 million, and planned to be 140 feet tall, 20 feet taller than Mount Pleasant's next tallest building. It was designed by Moshe Safdie, and faced much regulatory scrutiny and criticism by the Mount Pleasant Planning Commission. A more practical museum is being designed for Mount Pleasant to house the national museum that is unconnected to the Arlington museum. However, both the Medal of Honor Society and The Congressional Medal Honor Museum Foundation (Mount Pleasant, SC) endorse other Medal of Honor museums around the country.[4][5][6][7][8]
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Initially, the museum was planned for a location in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina.[9] A design for the museum by Moshe Safdie faced much regulatory scrutiny and criticism by the Mount Pleasant Town Council planning committee.[10][11] In late 2018, the Foundation decided to seek alternate sites for the museum.[9]

Seems a good call. Insofar as I can work out what is even going on with Mount Pleasant from that jumble, it seems confused and the bit about "The Foundation supports" is kind of meaningless.

Add after the above:

In October of 2019, Arlington, Texas, was selected as the location for the National Medal of Honor Museum.[12] The museum is meant to recognize Medal of Honor recipients[13] and include the National Medal of Honor Museum Leadership Institute, an education center aimed at character development for young people.[14][3]
In January 2020, Rafael Viñoly was selected as chief architect for the museum.[15] The first renderings for the museum were revealed that October.[16]
The Foundation has also worked to place a corresponding National Medal of Honor Monument on the National Mall in Washington, D.C.[17] A bill authorizing the Foundation to construct the monument passed unanimously in the House and Senate;[18] in late 2021, President Joe Biden signed it into law.[17]

Fundraising edit

Proposed new text:

The Foundation has a fundraising goal of nearly $200 million to build the museum in Arlington.[19] The project is funded by private donations.[20] No federal funds will be used to support the construction of the museum[21] or the monument.[22] In March 2021, American businessman and Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones made a $20 million donation to help build the museum.[23]

Construction edit

Proposed new text:

The site for the museum is in Arlington's entertainment district, near the Dallas Cowboys' AT&T Stadium and Texas Rangers' Globe Life Field.[13] On February 1, 2022, the Foundation announced it would break ground on the museum on National Medal of Honor Day 2022 – March 25, 2022.[3]
Unsure as to whether the bit about places near it suits an encyclopedia article. If it's generally called the entertainment district, the rest is fine, though. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 10:27, 15 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Foundation edit

New top-level section. Proposed text:

The National Medal of Honor Museum Foundation is a 501(c)(3) organization organization charged with designing, funding, building and maintaining the museum.[24] Chris Cassidy, former chief astronaut for NASA and a retired U.S. Navy SEAL, is the museum's president and CEO.[25] Charlotte Jones, executive vice president and chief brand officer for the Dallas Cowboys, is chairman of the board for the museum.[26]
Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter are "Honorary Directors" of the Foundation. In November 2021, Presidents Obama, Bush and Clinton appeared in a public service announcement in support of building the museum.[24]

Thank you for your help or feedback! Mary Gaulke (talk) 22:27, 9 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

This really feels like an article for an unopened museum. I don't imagine half of the article we have now will survive opening. I mostly agree with the changes, though there's a few odd removals here and there. Can I hear the reasoning? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.6% of all FPs 10:24, 15 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Adam Cuerden: I imagine the article will evolve a lot as the museum opens, but I think what I'm proposing adding doesn't stray into WP:CRYSTALBALL territory given the amount of media coverage. Most of what I'm proposing are additions, and I answered your query above about one of the deletions. My goal is to present a more complete overview of the museum as covered in reliable sources and help ameliorate confusion between the different museums with similar goals (an ongoing issue for this article, as demonstrated by the above discussions). Happy to answer any other questions. Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 14:29, 15 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Adam Cuerden: Hi! Checking if you've had a chance to review my response above. Thank you! Mary Gaulke (talk) 02:45, 26 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
Heads up to anyone reading this – Adam Cuerden has not responded to my outreach. If anyone else who's looking at this is willing to sign off on my proposals or offer feedback, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 21:22, 4 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ News Editorial, Dallas Morning (October 4, 2019). "The Dallas Morning News – Arlington lands the national Medal of Honor museum — and it's a win for all of Texas". National Medal of Honor Museum.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  2. ^ "National Medal of Honor Museum Foundation launches campaign to build Texas museum, DC monument". FOX 10 Phoenix. 11 November 2021. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  3. ^ a b c Bahari, Sarah (1 February 2022). "After years of planning, National Medal of Honor Museum will break ground next month in Arlington". The Dallas Morning News. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  4. ^ Munday, Dave (2018-04-02). "Medal of Honor Museum design fails to impress Mount Pleasant council committee". The Post and Courier. Retrieved 2018-04-05.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  5. ^ Witte, Sully (2018-03-07). "Medal of Honor Museum plan to come back for approval in May". Moultrie News. Retrieved 2018-04-05.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  6. ^ "South Carolina Town Wants Changes in Medal of Honor Museum". U.S. News and World Report.
  7. ^ Hardaway, Connelly. "With final design in limbo, architect of Medal of Honor Museum speaks at Charleston Museum Wednesday". Charleston City Paper. Retrieved 2018-04-05.
  8. ^ Grant, Daniel (2018-10-02). "More Museums Are Popping Up, Annoying Their Neighbors". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2019-08-30.
  9. ^ a b Williams, Emily (18 January 2020). "One museum may have left SC, but Medal of Honor Society headquarters 'here to stay'". Post and Courier. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  10. ^ Munday, Dave (2018-04-02). "Medal of Honor Museum design fails to impress Mount Pleasant council committee". The Post and Courier. Retrieved 2018-04-05.
  11. ^ Grant, Daniel (2018-10-02). "More Museums Are Popping Up, Annoying Their Neighbors". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2019-08-30.
  12. ^ "Arlington Chosen as Site for National Medal of Honor Museum". NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth. 2 October 2019. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  13. ^ a b Tarrant, David (2 October 2019). "New National Medal of Honor Museum headed to Arlington, near Cowboys and Rangers stadiums". The Dallas Morning News. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  14. ^ Swanger, Ben (5 November 2021). "Chris Cassidy, Charlotte Jones Give Sneak Peek of National Medal of Honor Museum". D Magazine. Retrieved 9 February 2022.
  15. ^ "National Medal of Honor Museum Foundation names architect for $150M project, adds industry leaders to its board". Fort Worth Business Press. 30 January 2020. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  16. ^ Hickman, Matt (12 October 2020). "Rafael Viñoly Architects unveils renderings of National Medal of Honor Museum in Arlington, Texas". The Architect's Newspaper. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  17. ^ a b Caldwell, Emily (29 December 2021). "Biden signs bill to authorize construction of Medal of Honor monument in Washington, D.C." The Dallas Morning News. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  18. ^ Schill, Charlie (21 December 2021). "Blake Moore's Medal of Honor bill awaiting presidential signature". Cache Valley Daily. Retrieved 9 February 2022.
  19. ^ Roberts, Kim (5 July 2021). "National Medal of Honor Museum in Arlington Hopes to Break Ground Early 2022". The Texan. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  20. ^ Watson, Kathryn (12 November 2021). "Obama, Bush and Clinton ask for support to build museum for Medal of Honor recipients". CBS News. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  21. ^ Broussard, Kailey (7 October 2020). "Here's the first look at the National Medal of Honor Museum planned in Arlington". Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  22. ^ Mitchell, Isaiah (23 December 2021). "Congress Approves Texan-Led Effort to Establish National Monument to Medal of Honor Recipients". The Texan. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  23. ^ Epstein, Jori (25 March 2021). "Cowboys owner Jerry Jones giving $20 million to help fund new National Medal of Honor Museum in Arlington, Texas". USA Today. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  24. ^ a b Stracqualursi, Veronica (11 November 2021). "Presidents Obama, Bush and Clinton in new PSA urge Americans to support National Medal of Honor Museum". CNN. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  25. ^ Bahari, Sarah (30 August 2021). "National Medal of Honor Museum names U.S. Navy veteran and former NASA astronaut as CEO". The Dallas Morning News. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  26. ^ "National Medal of Honor Museum receives $20 million from Jerry Jones". Philanthropy News Digest. 3 April 2021. Retrieved 1 February 2022.
  Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes in light of the drop-off in the above discussion. I think it's fine for all the proposed changes to go through. MaryGaulke, feel free to make the proposed changes yourself. WhinyTheYounger (WtY)(talk, contribs) 23:47, 19 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
Much appreciated. This is now done. Thanks! Mary Gaulke (talk) 00:43, 21 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
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