Talk:Names inscribed under the Arc de Triomphe

Underlined names

From the article: "Underlined names signify that that person was killed in action."

Except that, thanks to all the names currently being formatted as wikilinks, they're all underlined. How about a different formatting? How about bold? Or italics? --MicahBrwn (talk) 04:33, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Why are the names of Marshal Mortier (column 13) and general Bourcier (column 14) underlined ? They weren't killed in action. Marshal Mortier was killed in a bombing in 1835 and general Bourcier died at home in 1828... DITWIN GRIM (talk) 07:54, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Don't kmow about Bourcier. Regarding Marshal Mortier, Louis-Philippe, who became a close friend of the Marshal, was extremely distraught at his death. He saw Mortier's death as being a sacrifice for France and wanted to honour him just like the generals who had fallen on the field of honour.--Alexandru Demian (talk) 08:38, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Ambiguous names

• Jensen, Nathan D. (2012), Appendix: Names on the Arc de Triomphe, arcdetriomphe.info, retrieved February 2013 {{citation}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help); External link in |publisher= (help) "Unfortunately, some names inscribed on the Arc de Triomphe are ambiguous due to notable individuals sharing the same last name. While most names are clearly honoring a particular officer, a few remain which are unclear."

I found the above because I was interested in a Dejean for an article on the second abdication of Napoleon Bonaparte and Pierre François Marie Auguste Dejean was the only article on a man called Dejean on English Wikipedia. It now looks like the man I am interested in is Jean François Aimé Dejean. The above source, although unreliable cites reliable sources. Currently this article has:

• DEJEAN with a link to Jean François Aimé Dejean

Nathan D. Jensen states:

• Dejean
  • Jean-Antoine Dejean - Selected by Georges Six.
  • Pierre-François-Marie-Auguste Dejean - Selected by Léon Hennet, Georges Rivollet, and Arnauld Divry.
  • "Resolution: Pierre-François-Marie-Auguste Dejean had a much more notable career."

While one may not agree with Jensen's conclusion, from which reliable source does Wikipedia conclude that the person is Jean François Aimé Dejean (fr:Jean-François-Aimé Dejean)?

BTW: The original text of this article was copied from fr:Noms gravés sous l'arc de triomphe de l'Étoile on 3 March 2009 at that time there were no references in the French article. -- PBS (talk) 19:02, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Short biographies in English

• Thomas, Joseph (1892), Universal pronouncing dictionary of biography and mythology (Aa, van der – Hyperius), vol. 1, Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott
• Thomas, Joseph (1892), Universal pronouncing dictionary of biography and mythology (Iacchus – Zype), vol. 2, Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott

The Universal pronouncing dictionary of biography and mythology is a useful English language source for short (often very short) biographies on various men listed in this article. It may prove useful to anyone who ether wants to write a short biography on a red link or retrofit an unsourced short biography with an inline citation. For example I recently used it to provide citations for these two stub articles which carried no references:

• Joseph Hélie Désiré Perruquet de Montrichard (Page 1758) diff
• Jean-Joseph, Marquis Dessolles (Page 813 diff

-- PBS (talk) 09:28, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Another source that may prove useful is the Template:Cite Mullié it links to articles on Wikisource:

• {{Cite Mullié|wstitle=BROUSSIER (JEAN-BAPTISTE, comte)}}
• Mullié, Charles (1852). "BROUSSIER (JEAN-BAPTISTE, comte)" . Biographie des célébrités militaires des armées de terre et de mer de 1789 à 1850  (in French). Paris: Poignavant et Compagnie.
• {{Cite Mullié|wstitle=RADET (Étienne, baron)) |pages=477–482}}
• Mullié, Charles (1852). "RADET (Étienne, baron)" . Biographie des célébrités militaires des armées de terre et de mer de 1789 à 1850  (in French). Paris: Poignavant et Compagnie. pp. 477–482.

These are much more substantial biographies, but they are written in French, so for those of you do do not read French (Google Translate is your friend) -- PBS (talk) 20:49, 24 May 2017 (UTC)