Talk:My Great Predecessors

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In the list of criticism about the "My Great Predecessors" series, who is Richard Forster, where is this "The Critical Eye" article, and what is the "Chess History Center"? I have never heard of any of these before, and it doesn't help that there is neither a link, an ISBN number, nor a reference to any newspaper or magazine. I have done an online search, but aside from showing that Forster has authored some chess history books in German, I have found nothing. I have also found zero evidence of a column called "The Critical Eye" anywhere. The reason I was initially skeptical is that Forster's particular criticism seems to come from someone who has never read a single book in the series. Kasparov uses a great deal of analysis made by others, yes, but always makes sure to attribute it to them, and then interjects his own analysis. And I have a copy of the first edition in Russian. By contrast, Edward Winter is the world's foremost chess historian, and his particular criticism is relevant and accurate. Anywho, if one can find an actual link to Forster's article or prove that it even exists (!), fine. But otherwise, I will remove it. ChessPlayerLev (talk) 11:08, 24 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

I think attributing it to Forster may be an error because of this. Winter's criticism is here. I think the person probably saw Forster's name at the first webpage and they were talking about Winter's writing. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 15:49, 24 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
Winter actually does attribute the comment that appears in the article to a "Richard Forster", although I still can't find the existence of the review entitled "The Critical Eye". But at any rate, the article misuses the quote. The quote on Winter's page is supposedly talking about a single game in the book using previous analysis heavily (and it's never revealed which one), as opposed to being a persistent element throughout the book. (Which examines well over a hundred games) In addition, it is definitely hyperbole; "more than 95%" has been copied from "earlier sources"? Considering Kasparov has frequently used Fritz in his analysis, certainly more than 5% of the time, in every game, that seems impossible. And most analysis is indeed sourced to the players of the game or other earlier authors, too. Anyways, until one can find "The Critical Eye" as more than a single vague and exaggerated quote at the end of a Winter piece, I will take it out.ChessPlayerLev (talk) 22:12, 24 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
I think this is it? http://web.archive.org/web/20030727170317/http://www.chesshistory.com/ Fletch79 (talk) 12:38, 10 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

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