Talk:Music of France/Archive 1

Archive 1

Fugue

I pulled this out of the article: Elvis Presley rocks !!!!, french music sucks big time haaaa :) get over yaselfff;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.204.251 (talk) 13:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

The fugue, which is sometimes considered the most developed form of Western music, comes from 17th century France in its modern form, though the word (derived from Latin fuga, meaning flight) was first used by Jacques de Liège (author of Speculum musicae) in about 1330. The fugue is composed of several parts which enter successively in imitation.

As far as I know, this is incorrect. The fugue developed from several streams, all of them Italian, Netherlandish and German: Frescobaldi, Sweelinck, Froberger and others, though the early "fugues" were called ricercars, canzonas, fantasias and various other things. After the initial period of experimentation, the main development of "fugue" was mostly in Germany. Obviously the form reached its highest development in Bach, and the thoroughness of working out the contrapuntal possibilities of a germinal subject is aesthetically German, not French. Some fugal procedures were developed in the 16th century, though they were not fugal in the conventional sense (for example, in imitative writing in motets, involving points of imitation with the same text between successive voices) but this technique was predominantly Netherlandish (with a few French composers included in the development, such as Pierre de la Rue). If there is a source of French 17th century fugue please let me know! Sorry about the Music 303 lecture, old habits die hard, LOL.

The part of the paragraph on the origin of the word, and the Speculum musicae is fine --I'm not sure where it should go though. Antandrus 17:20, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Montreaux Jazz

The "Music of france" serie (I don't know where to modify it) contains a mistake : the Montreaux (Montreux in fact) Jazz Festival is not in France but in Switzerland.

Delisted GA

There are no images. slambo 17:40, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

i agree this is not a good article. because there is very little about the modern french pop scene. i added some notes about Star Academy, and the multiple starlets that have appeared from that show, but there is also the influence of Mylene Farmer etc to consider. i think it needs a lot of work to cover all aspects of modern french pop, rock, metal, hiphop, r&b, dance, techno/electronica.

Chanson?

The popular music section has nothing on the chanson singers of the 20th century (Piaf, Aznavour, Dassin, etc), which is perhaps what contemporary French music is best renowned for, rather than rock or rap. DonIncognito 04:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

French house

The part on french house is much too big. The text shall be put in the article about french house, not this one.Dont you think? Boeb'is (talk) 08:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Music Theory

These pages are useful for the social history, but in particular bal-musette - and Tiersen's adaptation of it - rely on unique harmonic progressions, and I feel that we also need some music theory to analyse them. FangoFuficius (talk) 10:30, 5 November 2021 (UTC)