Talk:Muhammad Ali (writer)

Qadianism

Anybody that gives any honorable status to Mirza Qadiani whether as prophet, nabi, or mujadid, messiah, mahdi, etc, is follower of Qadianism. You cannot believe in Mirza Qadiani in any shape or form and be a Muslim. The Lahoris are also followers of Qadianism.

Siddiqui 07:31, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

That may or may not be the case. From a Wikipedia standpoint it is immaterial - Its one point of view. You are free to perpetuate it, however not at the expense of opposing povs. Your point of view receives full attention and time in all articles related to Ahmedism/Qadianism. It it only fair that the opposing point of view be given as much importance.Nazli 08:02, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

What is fair is that Muslim view about Qadianese should also be presented, especially that ALL sects of mainstream muslims consider ALL forms of Qadianese as non-Muslims. However any attempt to say that is promptly removed. The historical case in Supreme Court of Pakistan in 1974 is a proof beyond any shadow of doubt about this concensus.

The same way ALL Indian Nationalist (Hindu, Sikh, Muslims) consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmed to be a British agent and a traitor to India. All references to this fact is also prompty removed. Hassanfarooqi 17:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Obviuosly you have not been reading the articles on Ahmadiyya movement and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. It is clearly mentioned that Ahmadis are considered non muslims and heretics. The legal position in Pakistan is also clearly stated. The allegation against Mirza Ghulam Ahamd regarding being a British Agent as well as numerous other criticims are also present. Ofcourse as per Wikipedia policies to maintain NPOV the other POV is also presented and any unsubstantiated statements are removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sufaid (talk • contribs) 06:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC). Sufaid 06:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Removal of the term Qadianism

A significant proportion of Muslims consider the Ahmadiyya movement to be outside the fold of Islam. It would be inappropriate for an encyclopedia article not to mention this fact. Nazli 02:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

This is incorrect. All mainstream Muslims (Athna-Ashri Shias, Ismaili-Shias, Barelvi Sunnies, Deobandi Sunnies, Ahl-Hadith, Salafi etc) consider all followers of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed (Qadiani or Lahori) as non-Muslims. Any attempt to say otherwise is purely their own fabrication. Hassanfarooqi 17:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

There are Sunni scholars who consider Shias infidels. There are Ithna Asheri Shia scholars who consider Ismailis infidels. And on it goes. This is not the place to discuss petty sectarian squabbles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.85.54 (talk) 04:15, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

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