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Executive Structure The church has 5 corporate officers, which include the president, vice president, general secretary, financial secretary, and treasurer. There is a board of bishops. Assisting the bishops is a board of presbyteries, composed of the elders of the churches. The current Executive Officers of MSHCA include: Bishop G. Ruth Batten- Interim President Bishop Thomas J. Martin, Jr- Corporate Treasurer Bishop Kenneth R. Coward- Corporate Secretary/Business Administrator Bishop Queen T. Harris- Financial Secretary Current College of Bishops Bishop G. Ruth Batten- Interim President and District Bishop of the Mid-Atlantic District Bishop Ronald Bryant, Sr.- Chairman of Public Relations and Communication Bishop Kenneth R. Coward- Corporate Secretary, District Bishop of the PA/NJ District Bishop Queen Harris- Financial Secretary Bishop Thomas J. Martin, Jr- Corporate Treasurer, Bishop of Missions and District Bishop of the West Coast District Bishop Simon Phillips- District Bishop of Guyana Bishop Hazel Woodley- District Bishop of the New York/New England District Ecclesiastical Structure There are seven administrative districts: New York/New England, Pennsylvania/ New Jersey, Mid-Atlantic, Southern, Great Lakes, Guyana and the West Coast. Each district is headed by a bishop and depending on its size may have an assistant bishop. Each district has a number of "presiding elders" that provide support to the district bishop. There is an annual holy convocation of the entire church, and each district has its own convention. There is a National Youth Convention as well as a National Missionary Convention. Administrative Departments MSHCA has a number of administrative departments including: Women's & Men's, Education, Missions, Youth and Music. Departments are headed by chairpersons. National Young People's Department- Evangelist Brenda Wynder Ed.D., Chairperson National Missionary Department- Bishop Thomas J. Martin, Jr National Women's Department- Elder Angela Clark, Chairperson National Music Department- Elder Dean Stanley, Chairperson

Missions MSHCA has over 50 years of history in the area of foreign missions. The organization currently has over 13 church in Cuba, and also churches established in: Jamaica, India, Dominican Republic, the Philippines and Guyana. Within the United States local affiliated churches operate soup kitchens, visit prisons, and counsel at risk youth weekly. MSHCA Calendar of Events MSHCA Convocational Year begins in September and last for 12 months. During the 12-month Convocational Calendar there are 3 national meetings and 7 jurisdictional ones. September- Holy Convocation (national meeting) October- Great Lakes District Convention November- Home and Foreign Missions Convention (national meeting) February- Guyana District Convention March- West Coast District Convention April- Mid-Atlantic District Convention May- Southern District Convention June- Pennsylvania//New Jersey District Convention July- National Youth Convention (national meeting) August- New York/New England District Convention

• Reason for the change: To address inaccurate changes made on the page on October 9, 2023 by 2600:6C5A:5AF0:9BA0:B07C:58D0:8DCE:EA4
• References supporting change: Please see the following sources to support the sections that have been taken down.

http://www.mtsinaiholychurch.org/districtsconventions.html (MSHCA Calendar of Events) http://mtsinaiholychurch.org/ourleadership.html (College of Bishops and Executive Board) Foreign Missions information http://www.mtsinaiholychurch.org/dominicanrepublic.html http://www.mtsinaiholychurch.org/southamerica.html http://www.mtsinaiholychurch.org/philippines.html https://www.newspapers.com/article/wausau-daily-herald-bishop-ida-robinson/20748063/ (information regarding foreign missions and districts of the denomination) https://www.eternityfuneralservice.com/obituaries/Bishop-Joseph-H-Bell-Sr?obId=24221344 https://pdf4pro.com/view/mount-sinai-holy-church-of-america-inc-5a1699.html (contains all the information regarding church's leadership structure) mshca 21:04, 10 October 2023 (UTC) mshca 21:29, 10 October 2023 (UTC)mshca 21:31, 10 October 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightja (talk • contribs) 14:31, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

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Regards,  Spintendo  00:42, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

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Corporate Officers

• Interim President – Bishop Grace Ruth Batten, Delaware
• Corporate Secretary – Bishop Kenneth R. Coward, Delaware
• Corporate Treasurer– Bishop Thomas J. Martin, Pennsylvania
• Corporate Financial Secretary– Bishop Queen T. Harris, Virginia

Members of the Board of Bishops

• Bishop Grace Ruth Batten, Delaware
• Bishop Kenneth R. Coward, Delaware
• Bishop Thomas J. Martin, Pennsylvania
• Bishop Queen T. Harris, Virginia
• Bishop Bishop Hazel Woodley, New York
• Bishop Simon Phillips, Guyana
• Bishop Ronald B. Bryant, Sr., Florida

Districts

Mount Sinai Holy Church of America has 7 districts located in the U.S. and South America. They include:

• The New York/New England District
• The Pennsylvania/New Jersey District
• The Mid Atlantic District
• The Southern District
• The Great Lakes District
• The West Coast District
• The Guyana District

Foreign Missions

Besides the church's jurisdictional district of Guyana, Mount Sinai Holy Church of America has churches in 4 other countries including: The Dominican Republic, Cuba, India, and The Philippines

Annual Events

Besides the jurisdictional districts annual conventions, Mount Sinai Holy Church of America has three national annual gatherings that includes:

• National Youth Convention (July)
• Holy Convocation (September)
• National Home and Foreign Missionary Convention (November)

• Reason for the change: The information was originally shared but lacked proper sourcing. This version has the correct reference information included with the text.
• References supporting change:

mshca 22:21, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightja (talk • contribs) 15:21, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

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Regards,  Spintendo  22:42, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

@Knightja: I just tagged the article because it's missing sources for a large amount of the content. There's an external links section that might have some information that can be used to source the article. Nonetheless, the problem with your request above isn't so much the placement of the info but the fact that it's not sourced with independent third party sources. Wikipedia discourages adding unsourced lists of info, as described in WP:NOTDIR. This is to prevent the encyclopedia from being an indiscriminate collection of information. The argument is that if the items you are trying to add were not written about and discussed in independent sources, they probably aren't notable enough to include here. Every source below looks like the church's own publications, where they can write anything they want and there's not necessarily any editorial oversight. STEMinfo (talk) 00:43, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I am unclear as to the protocol required in order to source the information I shared in my edits. I have reviewed a number of Wikipedia pages covering a number of Christian denominations that have similar information but do not refer to sources that are "third party sources". I am wondering why this standard is being used for my entry but has not been the standard for these. In fact, some source the organization's website as I have done so. I completely respect and agree to standard policies that Wikipedia enacts for uniformity and accuracy. However, it needs to be done an a uniform way. mshca 18:20, 17 October 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knightja (talk • contribs)

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