Talk:Mount Barrow

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Sean Parker in topic Nomenclature

Mount Arthur Burrowing Crayfish edit

I can't find a specific link to this animal, so have directed to the more general Engaeus Wiki page. Some other animals listed here also have alternative common names. I've kept integrity of names on the page but linked through to pages that explain what they are/look like. Libby norman 00:48, 11 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Libby norman (talkcontribs)

Nomenclature edit

Mount Barrow and Mount Arthur seem to have historically confused names (see below). The aboriginal name for Mt Barrow or Mt Arthur was peealermeliggener. The name was transcribed in Robinson's journal during his travels in Tasmania's North-east. Plomley, who researched Robinson's diaries, and published them in 'Friendly Mission', contends that the mountain termed peealermeliggener was Mt Barrow. This is based on the (ambiguous) reference on p. 410 of the 2nd edition of Friendly Mission; where Robinson ascribes the mountain as 6 miles S/W of Mt Pedder (Mt Pedder was Robinson's name for ?Mt Blumont [conjectured by Plomley]). He then goes on to explain the the 'big mountain (arthur or barrow) was equidistant from Mt Direction as Mt ?Blumont. This is confusing and would certainly lead one to think (in terms of distance from Mt direction), that Mt Barrow was the mountain referred to as peealermeliggener, but in direction, Mt Arthur might be the referent. John Taylor, in his 1996 thesis (p.76), asserts that peealermeliggener is Mt Arthur as the term peealermeliggener translates as "large bare place-extensive bare area-exposed rock" and that this is likely to be Mt Arthur - as the face of Mt Arthur towards Robinson and his aboriginal guides would have been the cliff faces of Mt Arthur. But Mt Barrow has more exposed clifflines and has a larger bare plateau than Mt Arthur; additionally, the mountain would have derived its aboriginal name not from the aspect seen by Robinson's party but from generations of inhabitants. Either way it is ambiguous and may never be known.Sean Parker (talk) 04:32, 14 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

Curiously, Mount Barrow is often not named on colonial maps until the 1840s and, despite its prominence overlooking Launceston, (and like the adjacent Mt Arthur) the mountain often appears with only descriptive titles, such as 'high rocky mountain'.[1]. On this map http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-nk10750-1 and this map http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-t79 the feature directly east from launceston is named as Row Torr - a name sometimes ascribed to Mt Arthur. perhaps the whole tier was known as 'Row Tor' and Mt Arthur named, colloquially during Arthur's governorship? With Barrow named in the 1840s by Franklin - when the maps change from Row Tor to Mt Barrow. It is possible that Franklin named the mountain as its appearance on maps is contemporaneous with Franklin's governorship - and the two were likely acquainted. Sean Parker (talk) Sean Parker (talk) 02:45, 6 October 2015 (UTC)02:12, 6 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ State Library of Tasmania lookfor=tasmania&type=all&limit%5B%5D=&submit=Find&filter%5b%5d=format:%22Map%22 http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Search/Home lookfor=tasmania&type=all&limit%5B%5D=&submit=Find&filter[]=format:%22Map%22. Retrieved 2 October 2015. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help); Missing or empty |title= (help)