Talk:Morgan Strebler

Latest comment: 8 years ago by MattStrebler in topic COI edits

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This is Bot placed notification, another user has nominated/tagged the image --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 20:58, 25 February 2012 (UTC)Reply

COI edits edit

I have reverted these edits by MattStrebler, who also claims to be the subject of the article. See this edit summary: "This page is about me. Its been updated for years by wiki mods. Everything that you deleted yesterday was cited and sourced. A wiki Mod actually wrote a lot of the page to make sure everything was neutral. Check past edits! Please delete this page". Allow me to comment.

"This page is about me"--maybe, but there can be no ownership of articles. The COI issue is obvious and while it doesn't stand in the way of the person editing the article, those edits need to be done properly and especially neutrally.

"Its been updated for years by wiki mods"--this is not true. Administrators, including me, Yngvadottir, Doug Weller, DragonflySixtyseven, Materialscientist, and TParis, have edited this article, but their edits don't amount to "updating".

"Everything that you deleted yesterday was cited and sourced"--not correct. In the version I edited, the "The Man Who Bends Steel", "Published Author", "Publications", "Private life", and "Liquid Metal Productions" sections had no sourcing whatsoever (unless we count a link to the Barnes and Noble page for a book, which we don't). The "36th Annual Superman Celebration" section lacked secondary sourcing. Other statements lacked proper sourcing, many were not neutral.

"A wiki Mod actually wrote a lot of the page to make sure everything was neutral"--that is a very liberal reading of what I think is this edit and possibly this edit and its edit summary, "I walked him through it via IRC, and then I trimmed it further myself. It's reasonably neutral". DragonflySixtyseven's comments aren't as categorical as they're made out to be, and that version from 2012 was significantly different from the one that I edited. In addition, neither DragonflySixtyseven nor I are infallible and I am not reading their comment as endorsement: they were evaluating an article submission and what they accepted for mainspace was "reasonably neutral", in their own words, not perfect.

If the author wants this deleted I suppose they can ask for it via Wikipedia:Volunteer Response Team, but since there are no BLP issues I doubt anyone would agree with deletion. It is possible, of course, that the subject is not notable by our standards, but that should be established via WP:AFD, the regular deletion process. One more thing: I deleted the "Morgan Strebler vs Criss Angel", which strikes me as really not all the relevant; the sourcing was meager, with a press release and one article in a magazine, the link to which may well be a violation of our copyright policy, and whose notability isn't established (I will be gladly proven wrong, of course). Drmies (talk) 14:54, 16 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

You obviously know more than I do on the subject. I'm not here to argue. Have a nice day sir.
M x I also don't want page deleted maybe somebody will come along and fix it. Sorry this is in the wrong format. I don't know what I'm doing really. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattStrebler (talkcontribs) 21:00, 16 September 2015 (UTC)Reply