Talk:Morgan (given name)

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Andecombogios in topic Morrigan

Welsh origin edit

On the subject of the Welsh origin of Morgan. "Archaeologia cambrensis" by Cambrian Archaeological Association (1873) in regard to entry on 'Achlach'; tell us that "about the year 1096 the rules of composition of music for Wales and Ireland were settled by order of Murchan, the Irish prince, and Gruffydd ap Cynan, the Welsh prince. This was Murchartus. (Ogygia, p. 438.)" Murchan/Murchartus in Ireland is known as Muircheartaigh O'Brien. So is the Welsh Murcan from the Irish Muircheartaigh?

The Irish Murchadh per Corrain & Maguire 1999 is anglized as Morgan. (Murchadh's diminative is Murchadhan.) Another Irish name anglized as Morgan is Muireagain; which I cannot help wondering is a diminative of Muireadhaigh. For in Scots Gaelic the name Murdaigean survives; noting what lack of better description what 'Robertson Scottish Gaelic Dialects' calls a parasitic vowel. Example being Murachadh for Murchadh.) Some authors state that Muircheartaigh is the source of the names Murchadha and Muireadaigh. BernardMorgan @hotmail.com

Hmm just noticed this article completely ignores the Welsh history of the name. OUP's A Dictionary of First Names doesn't mention a Gaelic etymology at all! The use of a baby-name book as a referenced doesn't instil confidence.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:31, 9 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

Morgen in old English edit

It means morning, but my belief is that Morgan is used as a name for people thought to be descendants of the morning by their parents. JJhashisreasons (talk) 10:20, 6 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

That might be your belief, and it's certainly possible that some people are thinking of this when they name their children Morgen, but this article is about the name spelt "Morgan", and I'd be surprised if many parents knew what the Old English word for "morning" was, but misspelt it when giving it to their children as a name. But if you have a reliable source, have at it. garik (talk) 14:35, 6 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Morrigan edit

Is there any chance the female version comes from 'morrigan'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:14BA:27F6:AC00:6CC9:CDFF:2FDB:16B2 (talk) 09:30, 27 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

No, 'Morgan' as a female name is almost ubiquitously an American/Canadian phenomenon, and is likely as a result of a conflation with Megan. It is not a Celtic language phenomenon at all as 'Morgan' is male-coded in both Welsh and Irish. Andecombogios (talk) 01:34, 10 September 2022 (UTC)Reply