Talk:Modern history of Ukraine

Latest comment: 11 months ago by Nederlandse Leeuw in topic Some concerns about WP:UNSOURCED and WP:NPOV

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When young, Yanukovych was sentenced to 3 years because of theft, looting and vandalism and later had his sentenced doubled.

This is under the Modern history of Ukraine#Yanukovych rule section. It does not seem relevant to the discussion and seems entirely out of place.--Teoh Han Hui (talk) 04:26, 25 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

terrorist-like ? edit

Any sources proving not terrorist but terrorist-like? Xx236 (talk) 06:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC) Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists assasinated 36 Ukrainians (among them one communist), 25 Poles, 1 Russian and 1 Jew.Xx236 (talk) 06:52, 30 July 2014 (UTC) https://www.academia.edu/454566/Terrorists_or_National_Heroes_Politics_of_the_OUN_and_the_UPA_In_Ukraine - terrorist organisation.Xx236 (talk) 06:57, 30 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

eastern Galicia and Volhynia were annexed by the Soviet Union. edit

The annexation wasn't legal.Xx236 (talk) 06:47, 30 July 2014 (UTC) Ukrainian Insurgent Army that fought both Soviet and Nazi forces and cleansed Western Ukraine of ethnic minorities.Xx236 (talk) 11:11, 5 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Russian Invasion of Ukraine edit

As the section for the Russian Invasion of Ukraine had only a link to the main page, I think a short description of it would be helpful. I have added a small paragraph myself, though I feel someone could definitely make it better. Also, the page does say this is outdated. Bashstash01 (talk) 23:30, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Some concerns about WP:UNSOURCED and WP:NPOV edit

This article is generally well-written whenever statements are supported by sources. But I'm worried about unsourced statements, especially because they appear to voice certain opinions. One such example is the following sentence:

[Poroshenko's] procrastination with the sale of its own confectionery factory in the Lipetsk oblast of Russia, the scandal with the use of offshore to minimize taxes paid (Panamagate) also did not contribute to the high rating of the president. Even the historic acquisition of autocephaly from Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I (tomos) and the creation of an independent Orthodox Church of Ukraine did not help restore the wasted trust in the Ukrainians. It was one of the most effective five years of Ukrainian state-building, but also one of the most controversial, when the president had to overcome the urgent challenges of the present, unable to break with the past. This is something a journalist or scholar might write, and it may even be somewhat valid as a criticism of Poroshenko's presidency, or perhaps the ecclesiastical policy of the Patriarch of Constantinople. But it is WP:UNSOURCED, WP:POV, and in this case also probably WP:UNDUE. The reader is supposed to believe that, because Poroshenko took a long time to sell his factory and other stuff, Ukraine wasted five years doing nothing (except state-building) and being stuck in the past. Either this is written by someone who really dislikes Poroshenko, or someone who thinks that there is something wrong with the independence of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine, or Ukraine in general. I don't think it is particularly difficult to reason why this might just be a bit of an NPOV issue... Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 20:46, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply