Talk:Milonga (music)

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milonga, tango etc,,, i mean music of argentina and uruguay has it´s roots in european and african dance, rhythm and style. It´s something one cannot deny.It is not a pure african dance and style nor is it a pure european dance but a mixture of the two not forgetting native american influences. I even heard the there some argentinas denying the existance of africans in argentina which is beyond funny. You guys are just making yourselfs not beleivable ......as you´re desperately trying to live in denial of many facts regarding your history. Argentinan art and culture is a mixed culture, one cannot only call it argentinan as it also has european, african and native american influences.... so please stop being paranoid and read your history very very well. Did you know that the first president of Argentina was black? i just find it ironical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soni82 (talk • contribs) 06:46, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The term milonga does not come from a similar African expression that means "lyrics." I Suggest deletion of that portion. Also, the part "it is much nearer to the African roots, especially in that it requires a greater relaxation of legs and body" cannot be true. Tango and milonga are inherently one and the same with varied artistic styles of dance - but to call milonga African? Please comment - Thank you. --Lperez2029 13:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

It is a mistake to say that the tango and milonga have no Africa roots. Robert Farris Thompson's 2005 book (for one example) on the Tango is filled with instances linking Tango's style, musical and lyrical elements back to Africa. The tango is a confluence of African, Spanish, other European and Andean elements, it is a mistake to remove Africa from this list. - AKeen 15:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

With all due respect, relative to the argentine tango (and milonga), I have to disagree with your assumption. Tango music having spun the tango dance, originated in Buenos Aires and Montevideo. Now, to say the music and dance combines a fusion of art from Europe, South America, and Africa may perhaps be more in line with what you're stating? - the tango dance is expressed purely as an expression of Argentinian art and culture, it is not however an African dance. Regards --Lperez2029 22:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

There are lots of mencions about the Argentinian milonga, but when milonga is really played and is mixed with other styles is in Uruguay. It would be grat if you can solve it.

That book is not creditable, since many have looked into it and found tons of mistakes. He is a bias source. Tango obviously has no African roots and many agree with that. http://www.history-of-tango.com/couple-dancing.html (XGustaX 14:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC))

Umm...what about Astor Piazzolla, why is he not mentioned in this Milonga article! >_< ---Dark314 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.237.68.99 (talk) 23:28, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Music Examples

It would be very helpful to have some music examples to go along with the descriptions. That would clear things up a might!

Piazzola

I also expected to see Piazzola in the list. --88.115.160.133 (talk) 20:35, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

This article lacks good sources

This article relies entirely on English-language sources which are not shown to be trustworthy. For a more mainstream account, have a glance at the Spanish Wikipedia article (even you only read it in Google translation) and be prepared to be startled. [1] Ttocserp 11:59, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

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The fourth beat

The introduction first says that the fouth beat i weakened, then it that milonga is syncopated giving a list of prominent beats that includes the fourth beat, what's the case?150.227.15.253 (talk) 19:36, 19 November 2018 (UTC)