Talk:Mid-South (region)

Requested move 24 August 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:30, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

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Mid-South (region) → Mid-south (region) – Per Talk:August 2023 Mid-South U.S. floods#Requested move 22 August 2023 (that article needs to be moved for other reasons, but WP:SQS alas) 4.4.139.206 (talk) 10:35, 24 August 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 13:30, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. The most common capitalization is the current title based on the Google Ngrams. Rreagan007 (talk) 22:00, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

• Support Per WP:NCCAPS and MOS:CAPS. It is intrinsically a descriptive term (in the middle part of the southern region) and therefore, not intrinsically a proper noun. Per MOS:HYPHENCAPS we do not cap after the hyphen unless that which follows is usually capped. Per MOS:COMPASS we do not capitalise compass points unless they occur in a noun phrase where it modifies the name of a place (eg Europe or California) and that complete phrase is usually capitalised. This is not such a case. Compass points are often capitalised but this is specifically against our manual of style. An ngram for "mid-south" is not useful, since it does not give context (the mid-south of where) and only reflects that compass points are often capitalised or perhaps, included as part of a much fuller name that is usually capitalised as a whole. Cinderella157 (talk) 12:13, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

It seems to be a proper noun to me, just like the South or the Deep South or the Upland South or the Midwest or the West the Northeast the North are all considered a proper noun in the U.S., and thus capitalized. Rreagan007 (talk) 16:44, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME and consistency with titles like Deep South and Upland South (it is possible to find sources referring to this region as an unhyphenated "Mid South", and to find hyphenated instances of "Deep-South"). BD2412 T 17:16, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

• There is a better argument for a capital letter in an open compound like "Deep South" than after a hyphen like this. Yes, it is sometimes not hyphenated, like Mid West (Western Australia). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:43, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

• An argument may be "better" without ultimately prevailing, and vice versa. BD2412 T 14:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose, usually capped, consistent with other titles, and used as a proper name in this context. Dekimasuよ! 03:22, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.