Talk:Mercedes-Benz O305

State Transit Authority O305's

I have updated the STA section, as the last MKIIs were withdrawn a few months ago. I know saying an "increasing number" sounds a bit like weasel words, but I could scratch around and give a definitive number, but it would be out of date in a weeks time.

Its probably best to just leave it at "an increasing number" unless someone can edit this weekly to keep it up to date. 123.243.242.57 (talk) 09:51, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

OM407 Diesel Engine

Seeing as both Mercedes-Benz's OM407 engine and the MAN D2566 engine share the same displacement, bore and stroke (11,413 cc, 125mm and 155mm respectively), and whatnot, I am led to believe the OM407 was essentially a Mercedes-Benz-faced D2566, made under license. Is this case of badge-engineering true? WikiPro1981X (talk) 11:08, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

The German army, the Bundeswehr, used to buy vehicles from both manufacturers. To keep cost and storage for spare parts low, they told both of them to get together and develop some basic exchangeable assemblies. The result were the OM4xx and MAN D25xx engines as well as front- and rear axles with hub reductions. For civil use in lorries Mercedes kept the 6, 8 and 10 cylinder V engines while MAN only used the 10cyl V and 6cyl in-row engines (more or less identical to the underfloor engines). Both of them though used the underfloor engines for their urban buses (MAN also for coaches derived from their standard interurban buses), MAN was also famous for their underfloor engined lorries (F8, F90 and F2000 types) with the same engines. Today, MAN uses newly developed engines (D08 and D20) in both their buses and lorries, Mercedes basically still uses the same crank cases for their engines of 10ltrs and above (OM5xx). Paulikxp (talk) 20:00, 9 June 2012 (UTC)