Talk:Matriarchy/Phyllis Chesler list item May 2011 rewrite

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In feminist thought edit

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  • Phyllis Chesler wrote in Women and Madness (2005 and 1972)[1][2] that feminist women must "dominate public and social institutions".[3][4] She also wrote that women fare better when controlling the means of production[5] and that equality with men should not be supported,[6] even if female domination is no more "'just'"[6] than male domination.[6] On the other hand, in 1985, she was "probably more of a feminist-anarchist ... more mistrustful of the organisation of power into large bureaucratic states [than she was in 1972]".[7] Between Chesler's 1972 and 2005 editions, Dale Spender wrote that Chesler "takes [as] a ... stand [that] .... [e]quality is a spurious goal, and of no use to women: the only way women can protect themselves is if they dominate particular institutions and can use them to serve women's interests. Reproduction is a case in point."[8] Spender wrote Chesler "remarks ... women will be superior".[9]

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  1. ^ Chesler, Phyllis, Women and Madness (N.Y.: Palgrave Macmillan, rev'd & updated ed., 1st ed. 2005 (ISBN 1-4039-6897-7)), pp. 335–336, 337–338, 340, 341, 345, 346, 347, & 348–349 and see pp. 294–295 (author emerita prof. psychology & women's studies & affiliated with Haifa Univ. & Bar Ilan Univ., all per id., cover IV) & Chesler, Phyllis, Women and Madness (Garden City, N.Y.: Doubleday, 1972 (ISBN 0-385-02671-4)), pp. 284–285, 287, 290–291, 292, 297, 298, 299, & 301 and see pp. 240–241, all respectively (author then asst. prof., psychology dep't, Richmond College, City Univ. of N.Y., Policy Council Member of Ass'n for Women in Psychology, & feminist, all per id., dust jkt., rear flap) (sales 2.5 million copies, per id. (pbk. 2005), cover I, & Douglas, Carol Anne, Women and Madness, in off our backs, op. cit.).
  2. ^ Douglas, Carol Anne, Women and Madness, in off our backs, vol. 36, no. 2, Jul. 1, 2006, p. 71, col. 1 (Review) (ISSN 00300071) (referencing the book's 2005 edition and its earlier edition without a date).
  3. ^ Quotation: Chesler, Phyllis, Women and Madness (2005), op. cit., p. 347 (italics so in original); see also Chesler, Phyllis, Women and Madness (1972), op. cit., p. 299 ("dominate public social institutions") (italics so in original).
  4. ^ Other than quotation: Spender, Dale, For the Record: The Making and Meaning of Feminist Knowledge (London: The Women's Press, 1985 (ISBN 0-7043-2862-3)), p. 151 and see reply from Phyllis Chesler to author at p. 214.
  5. ^ Chesler, Phyllis, Women and Madness (2005), op. cit., p. 337 and see p. 340; see also Chesler, Phyllis, Women and Madness (1972), op. cit., p. 287 and see p. 291, respectively.
  6. ^ a b c Chesler, Phyllis, Women and Madness (2005), op. cit., p. 338; see also Chesler, Phyllis, Women and Madness (1972), op. cit., p. 287.
  7. ^ Chesler, Phyllis, in Spender, Dale, For the Record, op. cit., p. 214.
  8. ^ Spender, Dale, For the Record, op. cit., p. 151 (emphasis in original).
  9. ^ Spender, Dale, For the Record, op. cit., p. 151.

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