Talk:Massaman curry

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 1.145.215.241 in topic Bias opening

title edit

The title of this article (Massaman) is inconsistent with the photo of the can of curry (Masaman). Unfortunately, I came to Wikipedia for discussion of which is the generally accepted correct spelling! I am inclined to go with the can.... unless someone has a reason for the alternate.

Notabox (talk) 02:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

It's a transliteration, and as such the spelling with English letters is utterly meaningless. Additionally most English speakers wouldn't pronounce Massaman and Masaman differently, and even if they did, most bystanders wouldn't notice the difference. ¦ Reisio (talk) 13:04, 16 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
There are three syllables here and in Thai the phonetic transcription is accurate from the Thai writing, e.g., ma-sa-man. However, when you hear how it is pronounced, at times there is a clear "d" sound from the ส, as well as an "s" sound mad-sa-man. In any case there are a variety of spellings and pronunciations. Because of that the canonical spelling could easily be one as much as another. The Longo dictionary does have แกงมัดสมั่น (with the "d") as the proper pronunciation. We at [1] with our Thai language products are going with gang mahd sa man as the English phonetic transcription in English. --Jeffmcneill (talk) 11:42, 19 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
The title "massaman curry" is due to wikipedia's insistence on using common names. Per the official Thai transcription system (RTGS), it should be written "matsaman", and "kaeng matsaman". - Takeaway (talk) 01:46, 14 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Named after stateman from Kedah? edit

I removed a section of the article which states that the name massaman might have come from the Kedah statesman Wan Mat Saman. This is impossible as he lived around the turn of the 20th century (see Wan Mat Saman Aqueduct) whereas the poem already describes this dish by name at the end of the 18th century. - Takeaway (talk) 23:53, 13 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

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Bias opening edit

In 2011, CNNGo ranked massaman curry as the #1 most delicious food in an article titled World's 50 most delicious foods.[2] However, by a reader's survey, it ranked number ten.[3] It remained at number one in the official, updated 2018 version.[4]

Is this really worth including in the opening section? Sure it's a nice dish, but an opinion from some random American news corps online subsidiary feels like a weird inclusion. 1.145.215.241 (talk) 22:16, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply