Talk:Mascara

Latest comment: 5 days ago by Zaslav in topic Etymology conflict

Vandalism edit

Minor vandalism reverted. --Ef80 (talk) 20:01, 3 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

spanish edit

mascara comes from spanish word "máscara", so fix that mistake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.148.223.102 (talk) 22:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

On what evidence? Some evidence is required. Zaslav (talk) 23:34, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Unusual citation style edit

I noticed that this article has an unusual citation style. This is fine, if you really like it this way. (Don't let anyone tell you different.) A more standard approach would be to use author-date shortened footnotes for the in-line references (if you like, {{sfn}} makes this easier) and the {{cite *}} citation templates for the references with |ref=harv. But as I say, if you like it this way, it's fine. I just wanted to make sure you knew what was available. ---- CharlesGillingham (talk) 18:50, 13 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hey I liked your comment, it's really nice of your saying (don't let anyone tell your different) Mystery246 (talk) 20:56, 16 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Etymology conflict edit

In the Etymology section the source is declared to be possibly Spanish, Italian, Catalan, Portuguese, and/or Arabic. Somehow biblical Hebrew, and Latin, got into the act; surely they should be removed as very dubiously relevant, so I put them here:

The Hebrew word משקרות (in the phrase mesaqqeroth `eynayim) relating to women's eyes is found in Isaiah 3:16.[1] It may mean flirting or ogling with the eyes, or painting them with red pigment.[2]
Latin treatises sometimes used the word mascara when referring to witches.[3]

Then the History section begins with etymology by stating the source is "likely" the city name of Mascara, Algeria. This belongs in the etymology section and is contradictory to everything that is already there. Which conjectural etymologies have evidence? Which are pure invention? I invite a researcher to find out and clean this up. Zaslav (talk) 23:42, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

User:A_Georgian reverted my edit on the ground that this material is sourced. The issue is not source, it is that there is no relevance to the etymology. If there is relevance, it needs to be explained in the article. There are often words that seem similar in many languages and even have vaguely similar meanings but that are not etymologically related. I ask User:A_Georgian to provide evidence that there is a connection of "mascara" to these ancient words, more than just citing them. Zaslav (talk) 17:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
  1. ^ Adam Clarke, Commentary, 1831, volume III page 688
  2. ^ Even-Shoshan Dictionary.
  3. ^ Barbra G. Walker (1996). The Woman's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets. p. 1077.