Talk:Martin McDonagh

Nationality

Wish to add my voice to the chorus - Mr.M McDonagh is not an Irish playwright. Please correct this error in the first line of the entry. Born in Camberwell, grew up in London - these places are in a country called England. People from England may be refered to as British or English. Ireland is a seperate state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrick Murphy Jnr (talk • contribs) 18:32, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I also don't get it, he is British, born in the UK (London) that he holds a separate passport is irrelevant. Twobells (talk) 14:47, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Untitled

Does anyone know what an 'erinization' is? The page says Lonesome West is an erinization of the Sam Shepard play True West. This is an old photo of this writer he look now like in older version of the article.

I would assume it's "making something Irish." Isn't Erin another word for Ireland? jengod 05:41, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I would assert the same thing, Jen. Yes, Eire is the official name of the country. *Exeunt* Ganymead | Dialogue? 16:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

On that same statement: does anyone know for sure that McDonagh claims Shepard as an influence? I've heard that he denies it. Dozenthey (talk) 22:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

This photo is fine, but he looks better in person.

Thickest article on Wikipedia (and that's saying something).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.173.203 (talk) 00:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC) 

a contemporary Irish playwright and film director. How does that work? He was born in London and the Controversy section seems to contradict the opening? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.32.108.54 (talk) 11:41, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I'm hesitant about the usefulness of the new addition to the article from Stop Smiling magazine; it wasn't too long ago he said he'd make just "one film". Encyclopedias are just to give the facts, right, not to speculate on future projects or post interviews? I'm sorry, I'm gonna take it down. Feel free to protest. unknown (talk) 23:32, 27 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.97.198.88 (talk)

The encyclopedia is not speculating on future projects, it is Martin McDonagh and his ideas about future films are of great interest to the readers of this page, whether or not you like them. Protest over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.82.90.227 (talk) 19:36, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Geesh calm down already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.97.198.88 (talk) 12:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Virtually all writers/filmmakers on wikipedia have an Upcoming Projects section, eg Dan Brown Steven Spielberg to take two names everybody has heard of. Now McDonagh does too.= —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.103.168.21 (talk) 18:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I was just suggesting. It's got nothing to do with liking or not liking, I run the damn fansite for crying out loud. Sorry if I stepped on toes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.97.198.228 (talk) 20:37, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

McDonagh - English or Irish?

This reference would indicate that McDonagh's own identity is considered by some no less controversial than his plays. A recent edit changed 'English' to 'Irish' here. For the moment I've left it at London-born, which is not in dispute. RashersTierney (talk) 06:04, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi there,

on the question whether Martin McDonagh is English or Irish, I can only say that he is definately an Irish citizen. He was born in London, England, but his parents were from Ireland. According to a website (http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html) you are an Irish citizen if your parents are Irish: "If either of your parents was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, then you are automatically an Irish citizen, irrespective of your place of birth. So, if you were born outside Ireland to an Irish citizen who was himself or herself born in Ireland, then you are an Irish citizen." (Access to the site: April 23rd, 2012)

Guess that makes McDonagh an Irishman!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.56.39.34 (talk) 21:19, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Unless he has officially renounced his British citizenship, he has dual British and Irish citizenship. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.191.14.63 (talk) 23:09, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Ridiculous that somebody who was born and raised in England is listed as an Irish playwright. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stormcloak (talk • contribs) 23:29, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

There does appear a conceted effort by certain editors to claim anything remotely associated with Ireland as Irish. When both the UK and Ireland are involved it's a touchy subject for obvious reasons, however Irish nationality law isn't grounds to decribe him as Irish in the opening paragraph, since he is also a British citizen. Unless he specifically self-identifies as one or the other, he should be listed as both.--Allthestrongbowintheworld (talk) 22:44, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

According to this Irish times article, McDonagh 'has tended to resist being categorised as Irish or English, saying that he feels somewhere between the two.'--Allthestrongbowintheworld (talk) 22:44, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Nationality again

Best wiki practice insists that the country of birth be recognised as the nationality yet one or two editors seem insistent on drawing to cites that suggest the person doesn't like to 'be' labelled by nationality, Wikipedia and especially BLP are not some sort of debating forum, articles deal in verifiability based on facts and the fact here is that McDonagh is of English nationality, he was born and raised in England which makes him British irrespective of his parents origin. Twobells (talk) 16:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:BLP, state nationality in lead held when he became notable, both Irish and British. WP:BRD, when youb edit and its reverted you discuss first. Also 'Irish' is WP:POINTY. Heading of your talk paragraph WP:CIVIL. Murry1975 (talk) 18:37, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I have deleted the two most recent comments, as the discussion had turned into personal attacks and was outside of the realms of appropriate Wikipedia practice. A solution or compromise can be reached here, but it may require the involvement of a more experienced copyeditor or administrator.--Soulparadox (talk) 02:01, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Influences?

Wasn't there an influences list in his infobox at one point? Why was that deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.95.66 (talk) 17:22, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Going to create an article for A Skull in Connemara'

Hello! My goal is to create an Article for McDonagh's play, A Skull In Connemara as part of an assignment for a drama literature class I am currently enrolled in. I will be adding Plot, References, and will attempt at a Reviews section(s).

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Not Turkish! Possible hack?

In the Mobile App Wikipedia, the entry has under his name the following in italics - "Irish Turkish film director and playwright"

Not withstanding the discussion whether he is Irish, British or both, presumably he is not Turkish! There is no reference explaining the asserion. I presume that someone with a sense of humour put this in. I see no way (pardon my ignorence) of editing this - can anyone either edit it or tell me how?

Thanks! Life-Is-An-Adventure (talk) 14:06, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

The Wikidata item for this article has been fixed (see also your Teahouse message for more details). Thank you for pointing this out. GermanJoe (talk) 20:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Wikipedia is IMHO one of the most beneficial features of the web (no comment on the worst), which I use frequently during the day both for information and serendipitous searching (which is how I came across this problem). Those like you who support it deserve much gratitude.

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Started his career?

The article says he "started his career in the Royal National Theatre with The Pillowman in 2003. He has since written many plays" and then lists various plays produced before 2003. It seems to be saying his first work was with the NT in 2003, then contradicting that. The article on The Pillowman explains that it was in development by 1995 with various readings of preliminary versions (not by the NT), but wasn't produced until the NT did that in 2003. I don't see any cite to establish that the 1995 reading of The Pillowman was the first reading of any of his plays, so it's not clear it was first, even if we go by first public reading and not first production (as is more normal).

TLDR: That paragraph seems to need rewriting so it mentions the plays in chronological order of first production, with The Pillowman inserted at 2003, and the first sentence deleted. It could optionally mention that this production was the first time the NT produced one of his plays (though not the first time one of his plays was produced), though I'm not sure that fact belongs in the introductory section at all. I'm going to revise it. StevenDoerfler (talk) 07:28, 5 May 2023 (UTC)