Talk:Martha Rivers Ingram

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Esrever in topic capitalization

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Someone needs to add information about Martha Ingram's involvement in the new Schermerhorn Symphony Center. Tanglewood4 02:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanglewood4 (talkcontribs)


Philanthropy edit

Saw Martha Ingram's profile on facesofphilanthropy.com, noticed her Wiki article didn't have a philanthropy section, so I added one. Sir. Somerset (talk) 21:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

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capitalization edit

I've reverted edits by User:Edwardx that I think run afoul of the Manual of Style and common English usage regarding capitalization. MOS:JOBTITLES says things like chairman, chief executive, etc. should be lowercase when used as common nouns. But the usage in the article, both in the infobox and the text, is as a title that meets point #3 here: "When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself, is not plural, is not preceded by a modifier (including a definite or indefinite article), and is not a reworded description". Thus, "She formerly served as Chairman of the Board of Trust of Vanderbilt University in Nashville" would seem to need capitalization. Further, the MOS entry only applies to the title itself, not the entity. If the consensus is that her title is being used a common noun here, then it would be "chairman of the Board of Trust", just as it would be, say, "president of the Senate". Esrever (klaT) 18:29, 16 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

This appears to be a clear mis-reading of policy. Furthermore MOS:JOBTITLES states, "Even when used with a name, capitalization is not required for commercial and informal titles." The Vanderbilt University article itself reads "Vanderbilt University, as a private corporation, is wholly governed by an independent, self-perpetuating Board of Trust." (my emphasis, and yes that should also read "board of trust"). Therefore, the article should be "chairman of the board of trust". Edwardx (talk) 21:04, 16 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
Also, the Vanderbilt University article (and Cole's article) has, "Whitefoord Russell Cole, who was the chairman of the board of trust from 1915 to 1934". Edwardx (talk) 21:07, 16 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
I emphasize not required, which doesn't mean not used. Esrever (klaT) 21:53, 16 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
And further, your Cole examples fall neatly into the bullet point I highlighted above, at least vis-à-vis the title itself: both instances are modified by the. Esrever (klaT) 21:55, 16 September 2018 (UTC)Reply