Talk:Margarita Ortega (magonist)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Blue Rider (talk · contribs) 23:29, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

General

• @Grnrchst: just to let you know that I will be reviewing this article withing the next few days. I aware that you are undergoing a FA review, so take your time if needed! The Blue Rider 00:27, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Lead

• Remove «relatively».

• Removed. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:46, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• The reason why she joined PLM isn't in the body of the article.

• Rewritten. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:46, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• Add a wikilink to Magonista.

• Added. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:46, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• Add a wiklink to eulogised.

• Added. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:46, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Biography

• Is it known which city/town/village she was born? Edit: I see that source #1 says it isn't.

• Aye at best you get differing speculations, but none of them seem more accurate than just saying "Sonora".

• Decapitalize and put in italics «mestizo».

• Done. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:58, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• Is Pascual Gortari the 1st, 2nd or 3rd husband?

• I'm not sure, none of the sources say. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:58, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• How old was Rosaura when she joined the PLM? Or alternatively, add the year she was born in the 1st paragraph.

• Not sure, none of the sources say. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:58, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• «left her more conservative husband», by husband I assume you mean Pascual (?).

• Sources just say her "husband", one even says "boyfriend". :/ --Grnrchst (talk) 12:58, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• Add a wikilink to party line (politics).

• Done. --12:58, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• How did women played a «a spectacular part in the revolution»?
• Did they manage to overthrow the goverment of Baja California? Likewise for the capture of Mexicali.

• There was no "government of Baja California", because it was just a territory at the time. It wasn't admitted as a state, with its own government, until 1952. It's more like the Magonistas captured parts of Baja California during the power vacuum created by the revolution - they captured it from the Porfiriato but it later came under the control of the Maderistas then the Huertistas. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:58, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• Add a wikilink to Mexicali.

• Done. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:58, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• Who is Ricardo Magón and how does he know she said that to her husband and that she died with a smile on her face??

• Magón was the leader of the PLM. And I don't think he did, these were dramatisations he wrote into his eulogy. He was a playwright, after all. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:58, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• Per some rule of Wikipedia, the quotation needs to have the original text, founded at Espino Becerril 2015, above the translation.

• Which quote, sorry? --Grnrchst (talk) 12:58, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• The big one, «I love you but...».

• @The Blue Rider: This quote is also in English language sources and in the English translation of Flores Magón's article (see Further reading). Do I still need to include the original text? --Grnrchst (talk) 12:30, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

• Ah, found the policy, MOS:FOREIGNQUOTE. It says "If the original, untranslated text is available, provide a reference for it or include it, as appropriate." So in this case, I think its fine. The Blue Rider 12:46, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Legacy

• A tad overquoting in this section, no? If possible, rephrase.

• Probably, but I wasn't sure how else to write it at the time. I'll have a look at rewriting. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:03, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• @The Blue Rider: Rewritten. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:38, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

• Alright, everything looks fine. Will be passing the article. The Blue Rider 12:46, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

• Add a wikilink to eulogy.

• Added. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:03, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

• Who is Benjamin H. Abbott? Perhaps put his their profession.

• Clarified. Having looked into them, I just realised I was using the wrong pronoun, so I corrected that too. --Grnrchst (talk) 13:03, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Stability

• Last edited on 30 Oct. and no edit wars were recently in place. The article is stable.

Imaged

• All images have tagged with their copyright status, are relevant and have suitable captions.

Copyvio

• Earwig's Copyvio Detector points to 24.2% due to quotations.

Sources

• All citation numbers are from this version. Checked citation #1, #4, #8, #11, #13, #19, #22, #27, #32.

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