Talk:Margarete Himmler

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I saw there were talk about creating an English-wiki article regarding Himmler's wife, so I made one. Feel free to leave a message on the talk page to improve the article. Thank you. Jonas Vinther (talk) 21:49, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Bromberg

Bromberg isn't in Poland, but in Eastern Germany.--41.145.24.201 (talk) 13:23, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Siegroth??

Why is the picture at the top captioned "Margarete Siegroth"? Her maiden name was Boden, as stated in the article. Wahrmund (talk) 15:41, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

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"Anti-Semitic" quote

Under the heading "Marriage to Heinrich Himmler", the last sentence reads "Her anti-Semitism was evident in a letter to Himmler dated 22 June 1928, in which she made disparaging remarks about the co-owner of the private clinic in Berlin, gynaecologist and surgeon Bernhard Hauschildt, exclaiming, 'That Hauschildt! Those Jews are all the same!'" I have no reason to believe that Margarete Himmler was not Antisemitic, but this is a poor example, and on its own, does not disparage anyone. Replace "Jews" with the name of any other religious or ethnic group, and it would not suggest the writer was "anti-" that group, merely that they characterized them as having shared characteristics. For example, "Those Mormons are all the same", or "Those Frisians are all the same" does not carry any pejorative content, nor does it imply opposition, much less antipathy. After all, in a different context one could use the very same phrase in a complimentary way, as with "Those Kennedys are all the same" which could mean that they share charisma or physical attractiveness. I think it would improve the article to find a better example of her Antisemitism than the quote provided. Bricology (talk) 22:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi again, Bricology (talk · contribs)

I think what you're missing here is the historical context? 98.155.8.5 (talk) 02:20, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't think that "historical context" provides us with anything concrete enough to render the quote in question as evidence for the prosecution, so to speak. The mere existence of anti-Semitism in 1920s Germany does not automatically shade every vague comment made in that time and place. To cite just one parallel: in the late-1820s, the Anti-Masonic Party was the second-largest political party in the US, due to the Morgan Affair and the anti-Masonic hysteria that followed Morgan's alleged abduction and murder at the hands of Freemasons. A private statement in that milieu, along the lines of "That Lewis! Those Freemasons are all the same" would not automatically be construed as anti-Masonic; it could have been referring to Freemasons collectively in a positive or neutral way. Again, I am not suggesting that Margarete Himmler was not anti-Semitic; I think it's likely that she was. My criticism is of that particularly vague statement being used as evidence. By that standard, almost anything one might say could be used to impugn them. Bricology (talk) 20:42, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

"blonde, blue-eyed"

Margarete Himmler is repeatedly described as blonde in this article, but all the photos of her appear to show a brunette. Mosi Nuru (talk) 15:37, 30 July 2023 (UTC)