Talk:Lyd (locomotive)

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Latest comment: 13 years ago3 comments2 people in discussion

I see that the BR number 30190 (SR 190) has been chosen. Has the reason why been published?

It might be worth investigating why Lew was 188, and not 763 to follow on from the others. Clearly 763 was unavailable - in fact it was given to one of the LSWR N15 class in 1925, and that class took numbers all the way up to 806.

The SR inherited a no. 188 in 1923 - one of the O2 class of 60 locos, numbered 177-236. At intervals between 1923 and 1949, 23 of these were sent to the Isle of Wight and renumbered. 188 was sent in April 1925, being renumbered W23 (withdrawn August 1955). At the time that Lew was built in July 1925, 188 was the lowest blank number on the SR.

Regarding the next two numbers: 189 was also an O2, withdrawn in July 1933; and 190 was another O2, which like 188, was sent to the Isle of Wight in June 1925, being renumbered W25 (withdrawn December 1962). Neither 189 nor 190 were re-used by the SR.

Bradley, D.L. (1967). Locomotives of the L.S.W.R.: Part 2. Kenilworth: RCTS. pp. 48, 51.
Bradley, D.L. (1975). Locomotives of the Southern Railway: Part 1. London: RCTS. p. 86. ISBN 0 901115 30 4. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

--Redrose64 (talk) 14:26, 18 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

See this site and this one for some background into the numbering. Regards, Lynbarn (talk) 14:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Both state "Research by the late Handel Kardas - a huge supporter of the project in the early days - showed that E190 was the next free number had Lyd been built alongside Lew." - I'll go along with that. My researches show that in July 1925 the lowest blanks on the SR were all in the O2 class block, and all were due to transfers to the Isle of Wight from May 1923 onwards (new numbers W19-W25) - 188 (W23, April 1925), 190 (W25, June 1925), 205 (W21, June 1924), 206 (W19, May 1923), 209 (W24, April 1925), 210 (W26, June 1925), 211 (W20, May 1923), 215 (W22, June 1924). So, a pair of locos would most likely have been 188 & 190. Thanks --Redrose64 (talk) 15:29, 18 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

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